From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A system for localizing documentation strings Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:37:34 +0200 Message-ID: <86myxikrgh.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <795F38F4-7253-47DC-97DD-53BED4F0AB97@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> <46A8B498.1070502@gnu.org> <46A8C099.6060401@gnu.org> <46A8C8A9.2070909@gnu.org> <7AF35BDF-18C0-4650-884A-3FB42EEA389C@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> <46A8CF66.4050402@gnu.org> <3A735187-31F6-47CB-A632-DB38D224564B@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185536267 11971 80.91.229.12 (27 Jul 2007 11:37:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 27 13:37:41 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IEO8a-00074o-Q5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:37:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IEO8a-0001n3-55 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:37:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IEO8X-0001mw-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:37:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IEO8V-0001mf-J6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:37:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IEO8V-0001mc-H9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IEO8V-0006LS-21 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (dslnet.212-29-44.ip210.dokom.de [212.29.44.210] (may be forged)) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13521 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:37:29 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 5020 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2007 11:37:34 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Jul 2007 11:37:34 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 09EAF8FA2F; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:37:34 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <3A735187-31F6-47CB-A632-DB38D224564B@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> (Jean-Christophe Helary's message of "Fri\, 27 Jul 2007 16\:22\:46 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75663 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > There is absolutely _no_ need whatsoever for Japanese people to > learn _any_ bit of English to become excellent programmers. If they are to become excellent programmers contributing to Emacs, I don't see how they could escape the need. Code written by a grandmaster of programming, tackling a well-defined task in the most concise and reasonable way: such code can be read and understand without reverting to comments. It is code that speaks to the programmer in a language of its own, an ancient and lasting, old and beautiful language built from structure and logic that only can be found in traces of today's conversation languages. But the majority of code sits on a rock and grunts. Being able to read the comments outlining the creator's intention is essential to understanding its purpose. In that code does not differ from art. The amount of art that is timeless and self-sufficient is limited. -- David Kastrup