From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 09:09:18 -0500 Message-ID: <86mvvhegdt.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <56194171.1080006@siege-engine.com> <5619E7C7.5000401@yandex.ru> <561A9E6D.8080403@gmail.com> <561BCF54.7060000@yandex.ru> <561D85DE.4090304@gmail.com> <561F1A75.1000909@yandex.ru> <561FA2A3.9030409@gmail.com> <5620F60A.1030104@yandex.ru> <5621B4D5.9040607@gmail.com> <5621BB2A.5000802@yandex.ru> <562242E3.10503@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445091016 17156 80.91.229.3 (17 Oct 2015 14:10:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, adatgyujto@gmail.com, Dmitry Gutov To: Eric Ludlam Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 17 16:10:04 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnSBP-0003gQ-UG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:10:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58442 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnSBO-0008TO-IM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 10:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51162) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnSB9-0008TJ-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 10:09:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnSB7-0004Sn-99 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 10:09:46 -0400 Original-Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([70.40.196.235]:56393) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnSB7-0004SU-2H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 10:09:45 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 19446 invoked by uid 0); 17 Oct 2015 14:09:33 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2015 14:09:33 -0000 Original-Received: from host114.hostmonster.com ([74.220.207.114]) by CMOut01 with id WE9S1r0052UdiVW01E9V3N; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:09:32 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=VOBOwb/X c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:117 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:17 a=DsvgjBjRAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=hEr_IkYJT6EA:10 a=x_XPkuGwIRMA:10 a=5lJygRwiOn0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Tk50FbbNL2aMLLFaBfkA:9 a=aSGvOcXLKsgA:10 a=EfVcKrcOF6wA:10 Original-Received: from [76.218.37.33] (port=56863 helo=TAKVER2) by host114.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnSAp-0006LI-10; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:09:27 -0600 In-Reply-To: <562242E3.10503@gmail.com> (Eric Ludlam's message of "Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:45:23 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (windows-nt) X-Identified-User: {2442:host114.hostmonster.com:stephele:stephe-leake.org} {sentby:smtp auth 76.218.37.33 authed with stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 70.40.196.235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191827 Archived-At: Eric Ludlam writes: > Also, wisent type grammars could easily dump out data you need for > indentation since actions can do anything you can write in lisp. No > one has tried to do it though. Not quite true; I tried for Ada mode. But I ended up rewriting the parser to be generalized LALR; see http://stephe-leake.org/emacs/ada-mode/emacs-ada-mode.html, and the ada-mode package in Gnu ELPA. That parser is missing the incremental features of wisent, mostly because I ran out of steam. I had also tried SMIE before that; it was not powerful enough for Ada. -- -- Stephe