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Dieter Wilhelm" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Emacs pretest 28.0.91 is out Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:15:57 +0100 Message-ID: <86mtk0u036.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> References: <8735lvngyx.fsf@yahoo.com> <865yqquexk.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83wnj55d5d.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6765"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, Corwin Brust , stefan@marxist.se, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 12 22:23:59 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n7l66-0001ZA-Vw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:23:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46868 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7l65-0000jk-Vr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:23:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7l3W-0006wj-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:21:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.75]:52061) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7l3V-0002a0-8t; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:21:18 -0500 Original-Received: from ping ([92.116.167.204]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MBmDy-1nDILz0ehY-00C6Rb; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:15:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83wnj55d5d.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:53:02 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:PX9sLc9dqEDAO+PTeopNTXs3dMaBxl9RxJQiqRbMAUVbRJOduH8 L9H3liIe0jnaucQFpUSlZwd3z/Lxhp7wfN7mjX8+X4ZxhGVraFLSsTKjjmyrMliv7eXa3wq 7X6cfUGtPwoe0kb0rl1UmET0ttEzAnt+7idzBy2QnGngaQ9fUd8W/UjSUGnncgFCZ+mS5s4 np7ix85iUfQk07zvJZQgQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:lkmjRPfIXJg=:ouD93ct/Am1C73GHj5CFPI kaAaqchNfTzK+nQKOXPac8FUXby7BR6DMgcs35krbWBU2q/yvguEp/wfabNKdSJz2VrCqkYhu qh5JtaEAorGhCe3z3Lim9u45sDMZlw4O5uINyR+wUoaXe5tzw7F/lTg5+OmhEwIC1/dPIP8yL AmYAZvdy+DqrSPm/EOXdR2M3WRduuvuCkpRrmpI407FsVRZKVwZWNb+y0LDkaZCwqa18fTN7S tuQEB3hSFca+2YTstQc1LonW33zxKvVA2c7bOHB1dXZxsJoaxGoLHwvFwhLOKkN4Ga0v9LZjs JHV2cVG9JYvyxXlr/U9FbAnw6GFqeunPU9ytAOJCKXbHNzGrmf/FtKDBWXZV407FabWrwjdhM Dcl8rvuBs9P02MZtwN8KmgUYjwpn6smRDP5wnpeGqZ6dj27QJZ9LYhAUyz9JlAZxyCc90VUyZ pVpT4GJE5DcJRKqozQu3W6PytfWS27H+V7m13LTw2AeoDOS+gRUfdX5//0IPdOgpExZJBQG2g U1FfFU6u3AZ93U0XN6JeY90tgFJtD9zD9d5aQ/xCakzFp4O8okcGuRyAjaOetOmZfvDdL6OZX Z1EPIyN9+SNmSi5hfeYEOUEWAuIj9LJ9nHTmqgXCcaP0IXl6fRLzzqE3fVBVgXvLxFEfwgaYP M+tQjxdv4gYUdtkTRh1D+n5D8biocqz/LrYlDKmtrGNwqzp5YJxXXURoqeHEqfN9InsrwW+hb 4u3CH0FGcX/+Zm1g Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.72.192.75; envelope-from=dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de; helo=mout.kundenserver.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284669 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Corwin Brust >> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:07:41 -0600 >> Cc: Po Lu , Stefan Kangas , >> Drew Adams , >> "emacs-devel@gnu.org" >> >> Please note that this build does **not** enable native-compilation nor >> does it include gccjit (in deps). I'm working on the assumption that >> the Phillip's build scripts should be enhanced so we can build (and >> distribute) windows binaries both with and without native compilation >> enabled. > I'm not sure this is correct/justified. Wouldn't it be better to have > just one build that could support both variants? It is supposed to > work that way, but I don't think anyone tested this in practice. It > would be good to see if that indeed works as intended, and if not, > report the issues which prevent that. I don't quite understand, does this mean that ALL .elc files are getting .eln companions? Or can this work as under Gnu-Linux with JIT compilation? > Specifically, I suggest to build Emacs _with_ native-compilation > support, then try using that on a system that has neither libgccjit > nor gcc/Binutils installed. OK, I can check this in the office. Dieter -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Zwingenberg, Germany