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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322671 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Ihor Radchenko >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 06:28:21 +0000 >> >> Hmm. This reminds me of Google Summer of Code. >> Eli, have you considered using GSC to get volunteers for >> implementing some moderately difficult Emacs features? Since >> GSC provides financial incentive, it may be possible to get >> student volunteers. > > I can only say that it would be harder for a casual contributor > to do a GSoC-style job for Emacs than for other projects, > because Emacs has a lot of specialized needs and requirements > that take time to learn. But maybe this is not an obstacle. Does GSC have an 'avenue' for working on bugfixes rather than features? I know that's not where this thread started, and it's significantly less glamorous, but the requirements for a bugfix tend to be more immediately clear than a 'library'. Regards, - Joel