From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: My resignation from Emacs development Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 17:48:20 +0200 Message-ID: <86msgxq75n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <169c6564-4722-4338-a049-5f8f3ce69394@alphapapa.net> <86ldxbofgw.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1732"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 15 16:49:28 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tMqs3-0000Hs-MZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:49:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tMqrI-0004MQ-Db; Sun, 15 Dec 2024 10:48:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tMqrE-0004MD-He for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2024 10:48:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tMqrD-0001UA-Ok; Sun, 15 Dec 2024 10:48:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=0rvjxzi/ko8HSelhY0g+agjTJ8vQPdgLDRKwnrU5FBk=; b=sWb7SoX3453J BINK0O4sIy+JbdeoynMlIP+fs7s9dWiuC8XlZJCpzuFr5nH1fYMCe9iuKVyArKfIZKcAwNpcUqj8Q vhv8RLKd8nTihlPB6LBTDM/hsKwIiqfI3Ysp+T+ar/V8fC6zxfG+fL+UE34Kwdt+WX+24uQgslzzR i2UjMIYwiUBI/HVD2jo5bEt1/MIcMJNsrJBnyMhni89klmHAPDi1ukd1kxAtnwFocFXRCWabBALaC AebG/nkWGXStGPeK/FpqseYKvDpC43vzj0LP601CZbp8g4HxAgaCtrmq7tbnJUHFowf+j0lOQ/e9K sLplodYciblKDR4TxFOE9g==; In-Reply-To: (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sun, 15 Dec 2024 15:27:31 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326531 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 15:27:31 +0000 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > What has been implemented, "remapping", is a sort of extreme version of > advice: it supersedes a symbol's function by some other function. > What's more, it is the core Emacs functions which do this, not some > wierd user setting. CC Mode's symbol `c-mode' now sometimes means C > Mode, sometimes c-ts-mode. > > I don't think this is a good technical solution for whatever problem it > was intended to solve. > > I was not involved in the discussion which decided to implement this, > assuming there was such a discussion. I have been unable to find it in > the archives, and nobody has given me a reference to it, despite it > being relevant to this thread. Remapping of major modes was introduced in Sep 2022, and was discussed in bug#58075 (which was opened for that purpose). From my POV, it's just a convenient user option, so discussing it as a feature-request bug report was appropriate. Btw, I suspect that when Richard says "I proposed more than one idea", he refers to a much more recent discussion, not about what happened when mode-remapping was added to Emacs.