From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: EN refcard (and others) nonsense sentence ? Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 16:49:45 +0200 Message-ID: <86lkfvza7q.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <874pmjpmak.fsf@lrde.org> <87zm4bo600.fsf@lrde.org> <86ejln1oqe.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86abwb1ok5.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <46447F53.4080508@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178895017 25883 80.91.229.12 (11 May 2007 14:50:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl?= Cadilhac , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 11 16:50:12 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HmWRe-0005Cf-LT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 16:50:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HmWZ4-00024j-EI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:57:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HmWYj-0001tV-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HmWYi-0001sl-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HmWYi-0001sf-4I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:57:28 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HmWRG-0001oI-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (pd95b0fdb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.91.15.219]) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10858 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 16:49:38 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 18696 invoked from network); 11 May 2007 14:49:45 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 May 2007 14:49:45 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2BE218F998; Fri, 11 May 2007 16:49:45 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <46447F53.4080508@swipnet.se> (Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv's?= message of "Fri\, 11 May 2007 16\:36\:03 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70821 Archived-At: Jan Dj=E4rv writes: > David Kastrup skrev: >> David Kastrup writes: >>=20 >>> michael@cadilhac.name (Micha=EBl Cadilhac) writes: >>> >>>> Speaking of which, any idea what does this sentence mean : >>>>> Type \kbd{F10} to activate the menu bar using the minibuffer. >>> You have to try it out to believe it. >>=20 >> Oops. It would appear that this is no longer what it used to be on >> windowing systems. >>=20 >> The description appears now to apply to M-` only, at least on GTK+ and >> likely also other window-systems. >>=20 > > It works for me with trunk and 22_BASE, Gtk+, Lesstif/Motif and Lucid wid= gets. > Isn't F10 bound to x-menu-bar-open for you? Or perhaps your window mana= ger > is stealing all F10? runs the command x-menu-bar-open which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `/usr/share/emacs/2= 2.0.91/lisp/term/x-win.elc'. It is bound to . (x-menu-bar-open &optional FRAME) Open the menu bar if `menu-bar-mode' is on. otherwise call `tmm-menubar= '. Do you have menu-bar-mode off? --=20 David Kastrup