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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-*
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:47:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86lk093nz1.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87fxqi62ee.fsf@jurta.org

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:52:57 +0300 Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> wrote: 


JL> You could include lowercase versions since they are sometimes used to
JL> numerate subsections.  But please be careful to not create conflicts
JL> with the existing rules in cyrillic-translit like ("/i" ?і) and ("/I" ?І)
JL> where І is CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER BYELORUSSIAN-UKRAINIAN I.

How about

 ;; Roman numerals, commonly used for months and section/subsection numbers
 ("/RI" ?Ⅰ)
 ("/RII" ?Ⅱ)
 ("/RIII" ?Ⅲ)
 ("/RIV" ?Ⅳ)
 ("/RV" ?Ⅴ)
 ("/RVI" ?Ⅵ)
 ("/RVII" ?Ⅶ)
 ("/RVIII" ?Ⅷ)
 ("/RIX" ?Ⅸ)
 ("/RX" ?Ⅹ)
 ("/RXI" ?Ⅺ)
 ("/RXII" ?Ⅻ)

 ("/ri" ?ⅰ)
 ("/rii" ?ⅱ)
 ("/riii" ?ⅲ)
 ("/riv" ?ⅳ)
 ("/rv" ?ⅴ)
 ("/rvi" ?ⅵ)
 ("/rvii" ?ⅶ)
 ("/rviii" ?ⅷ)
 ("/rix" ?ⅸ)
 ("/rx" ?ⅹ)
 ("/rxi" ?ⅺ)
 ("/rxii" ?ⅻ)

JL> One possible letter for ь is x.  I guess it is from jcuken-only
JL> keyboards, but since it is already taken for x in cyrillic-translit,
JL> maybe we should replace the rule ("x" ?х) with ("x" ?ь)?
>> 
>> OK, ditto for X -> Ь.  We'll be lynched, surely.

JL> This is why I suggest you to move out most new rules to a separate
JL> input method, or at least reduce the likelihood of possible annoyance.

Users still need to use the method at some point.  Delaying the
annoyance until then doesn't make it any less of a problem--we're still
interfering with x/X in the secondary method.  I'll make the change in
the core method for now, and let's see if it's a problem.

JL> I like your current set of rules, they are easy to remember and input.
JL> But I have doubts about << and >> since they are inconsistent with
JL> other sequences with the leading slash.
...
JL> I'm not convinced of the need of creating an exception for these two
JL> characters.  Such exceptions do more harm than good, e.g. the user has
JL> to remember which quotes require the prefix slash and which don't.

OK, I've made it /<< and />> for those two.

Ted





  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-13 14:27 composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-13 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-13 15:56 ` Jason Rumney
2008-06-13 18:09   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-14  9:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-14 18:55       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-06-14 19:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-18 20:17           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-19 11:45             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-02 20:25               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-03  2:29                 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-03 19:53                   ` adding consistent extra symbols to input methods (cyrillic-*, croatian-*, slov*, czech-* etc.) input methods Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-05 12:54                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-06 18:40                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 22:54                         ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10  0:09                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10  0:37                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10  0:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10  1:44                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10  1:15                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10  0:27                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10  1:16                             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10 18:43                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11  2:52                                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-07  1:57                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07  4:39                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-07  5:25                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07 19:42                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 22:05                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13  5:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-13  5:17                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-13 21:27                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14  3:18                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-07-14  4:43                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-14 21:51                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15  1:24                                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-28 13:30                                               ` multiple input methods (was: adding consistent extra symbols to input methods) Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 18:41     ` composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Juri Linkov
2008-07-07 20:12       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 21:42         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08  0:48           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-08 10:46           ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-07-08 21:47             ` David Kastrup
2008-07-08 15:37           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 17:38             ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 22:54             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 16:02               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 18:02                 ` James Cloos
2008-07-09 18:49                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:51                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 18:48                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:33                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 22:14                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 23:52                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 12:47                         ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2008-07-10 18:45                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 19:10                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 19:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 20:40                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 22:01                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-12 20:51                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14 14:01                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-14 21:47                                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15 15:06                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-15 20:32                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-01 21:07                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 21:00                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 22:05                                               ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 22:09                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10 22:54                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11  1:26                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-11  2:08                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-09 19:21                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08 15:49           ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 18:50             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 19:50               ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 20:26                 ` composed characters question and suggestions for?quail-cyrillic-* Teemu Likonen

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