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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250529 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Before Tramp could implement automagic > > encoding/decoding, we would need a design in Emacs how it shall look > > like. > > I would suggest that this be part of accessing files on cloudy services. > Anything going up gets encrypted first; anything coming down gets decrypted > on arrival. > > However: when people use nextcloud, are they normally using their > own server instances? Or normally using a server run by someone else? Sorry, I can't tell what the norm is. Personally, I'm using a webhoster for my Nextcloud instance. And I've got a colleague which is running it on his Raspberry Pi from home. Of course: Both is possible. Dieter -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Zwingenberg, Germany