From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: An anonymous IRC user's opinion Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:16:38 +0300 Message-ID: <86ldyqsrax.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87plodsjsd.fsf@web.de> <865xq14dwp.fsf@gnu.org> <343c4d04-af53-4da2-9d1c-c616c74821e1@gutov.dev> <86plo8369c.fsf@gnu.org> <63edeeea-1f24-4d3b-abc8-b96b164942e4@gutov.dev> <8634l1zsej.fsf@gnu.org> <9a8b97f8-def3-43ce-b71b-1f09bb05afd4@gutov.dev> <86cyk4vcld.fsf@gnu.org> <86ttdgthg2.fsf@gnu.org> <86ed4kt2ws.fsf@gnu.org> <8e30fb5c-8e1b-4f73-98eb-50c5c396efb0@gutov.dev> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28413"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 14 16:17:48 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t0LtK-00078s-Nl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:17:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t0LsM-0001Ok-M9; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:16:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t0LsJ-0001MV-NR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:16:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t0LsJ-0000Wa-5t; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:16:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=QXdm3HBD3a7FEJ775twvxsrFSJCJTWV9tBcWM7EW1pw=; b=kla3ltvJRyeU lYYdOzeranWz6FiE0taqeMPaTIerPDYfr7kyRMg49KcljUoWUZsNt3TAG5D+W4lN9WEVuylr+UwIn zGxJHjNNRAGDXqVGkgNdYTsHz0N4Jn4OJBJLRIkWa2uhYzVqYYUTjMxl37M3C2hO9nCkDZDLaataG pK2w0Bim3YyUdigDhuq14D+JNtjz01nPDKjdN2ayZbtHKr9DwWtIYl2O90xCV6gnXOT+ZsHLEg3tR qBuzk3+7l20ijtDqzu2qqM6hUNZAuMR+0AI40PmRvihspRG4o7IPnR8U/pPIOVi+kZ5/JLhQrq27X 12p3mPabbdgx8SHLPKbGaA==; In-Reply-To: <8e30fb5c-8e1b-4f73-98eb-50c5c396efb0@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:32:31 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:324571 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:32:31 +0300 > Cc: johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > On 13/10/2024 18:53, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > In any case, I don't understand what is so sacred about > > auto-mode-alist that it should not be modified at run time. > > The ad-hoc behaviors the creates and offers the users, or the bugs like > 'C-h f' altering auto-mode-alist, or 'M-x js-ts-mode' (for example) > doing the same because it loads cc-mode. We have such issues all over the place in Emacs: "C-h" commands that load packages modify the global state. There's nothing new here, nor anything outlandish.