From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: progmodes/project.el and search paths Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 02:43:09 -0500 Message-ID: <86k2t8c16a.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <55BE209F.1000009@siege-engine.com> <55BE509B.2080307@yandex.ru> <87r3nkjxby.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <55BF7619.1050701@yandex.ru> <87mvy8jvlh.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <55BF8522.4010009@yandex.ru> <87lhdsys13.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <55BFF764.2030002@yandex.ru> <83mvy7tbit.fsf@gnu.org> <55C0FEEB.7040500@yandex.ru> <83h9oeudfs.fsf@gnu.org> <55C1074E.90103@yandex.ru> <83d1z2uach.fsf@gnu.org> <55C11D54.9090105@yandex.ru> <83bnemtpop.fsf@gnu.org> <55C1DA6F.1000209@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438847029 4313 80.91.229.3 (6 Aug 2015 07:43:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 07:43:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 06 09:43:37 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNFpu-0006DU-KK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 09:43:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43774 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNFpt-0008QW-QG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 03:43:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49931) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNFpq-0008QQ-Rl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 03:43:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNFpl-0008W1-ST for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 03:43:30 -0400 Original-Received: from gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([69.89.25.95]:49131) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNFpl-0008UG-LO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 03:43:25 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 3590 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2015 07:43:23 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2015 07:43:23 -0000 Original-Received: from host114.hostmonster.com ([74.220.207.114]) by cmgw3 with id 1RjF1r00q2UdiVW01RjJr7; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 07:43:22 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Qc314Krv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:117 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:17 a=DsvgjBjRAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=y7kgw_RnJtkA:10 a=hEr_IkYJT6EA:10 a=x_XPkuGwIRMA:10 a=uRRa74qj2VoA:10 a=vaJtXVxTAAAA:8 a=4amaxpwnJfz5lzPwXEgA:9 Original-Received: from [76.218.37.33] (port=50009 helo=TAKVER2) by host114.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNFpc-0000B5-KP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:43:16 -0600 In-Reply-To: <55C1DA6F.1000209@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:42:07 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (windows-nt) X-Identified-User: {2442:host114.hostmonster.com:stephele:stephe-leake.org} {sentby:smtp auth 76.218.37.33 authed with stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 69.89.25.95 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188477 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 08/05/2015 05:49 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> Not very interesting, IMHO. >> >> I don't understand this criterion. I think the criterion should be >> "is this useful". > > Just a criterion for what I spend time on. Since we are discussing core Emacs functionality, you should be clearer about this. There is a big difference between: - that would be a useful core feature, but I don't want to work on it and - that would not be a useful core feature. > Do you really consider this on the same of usefulness as, say, > xref-find-references? Personally, I use 'make' much more than I use cross reference tools, so yes, build is more useful. For Emacs core, they are both important, which is why we have 'compile' and 'xref-find-*'. For project.el, this fits into "provide build related project information to other elisp programs" in a couple of ways: - 'compile' tries to provide tab completion on Makefile targets; it doesn't do it well (it misses targets in #include ). Presumably EDE can do better, so project.el should provide project-build-targets, so compile can use that to provide the completion list. That would then automatically work for ant, gradle, etc projects as those are added to EDE or another project implementation. - 'compile' also tries to guess the build command; it could use project-build-command. -- -- Stephe