From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Allowing point to be outside the window? Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 21:56:47 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86ilvyrhts.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87ilwd7zaq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilwd7zaq.fsf@yahoo.com> <83bl24yaed.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfvg7l51.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r1az6bpy.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ee6nx42p.fsf@ankarstrom.se> <834k7jxo33.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgpbi5ma.fsf@ankarstrom.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35330"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Rudolf Schlatte Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 21:00:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mv36m-0008xY-Ks for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 21:00:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41044 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mv36k-00014J-Jt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 15:00:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45744) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mv363-0000OU-VD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:59:24 -0500 Original-Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:57891) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mv361-00006d-KQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:59:23 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE9D0240005; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 19:59:16 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Rudolf Schlatte's message of "Wed, 08 Dec 2021 20:21:49 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.193; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay1-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281386 Archived-At: > I briefly tested with two contemporary editors (Atom and VS Code), and > their behavior indeed differs between mouse-based and keyboard-based > scrolling: in the former case (scrolling via mouse), the cursor stays > put and moves out of view, while in the latter case (scrolling via the > PgDn key), the cursor changes position to stay on screen. Linux console supported keyboard-based scrolling with Shift-PageDown/PageUp where the cursor stays on the command line and it scrolls back on a key press, but recently this feature was removed.