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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: My resignation from Emacs development
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:54:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86iksemahn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <trinity-1414b85d-9023-4685-aaa5-a0b922ff0267-1732359970683@3c-app-mailcom-bs05> (message from Christopher Dimech on Sat, 23 Nov 2024 12:06:10 +0100)

> From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: rms@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 12:06:10 +0100
> 
> > However, as I've written elsewhere in this thread, Emacs maintainers
> > are just stewards.  They don't "own" the project, and cannot dictate
> > their preferences when some change is widely favored by the community,
> > not without good reasons, which are considered "good enough" by the
> > community.  So when we feel that a change will be widely supported,
> > regardless of discussions, we see no reason to delay its installation.
> > (Of course, code review and various minor issues like proper
> > documentation etc. are still in effect, and many times require
> > re-submission of patches before they are installed.)
> 
> I challenge the notion that Emacs maintainers act solely as stewards.
> The term implies neutrality, but maintainers inherently influence the
> project's trajectory.

The term does not imply neutrality, it implies taking care of the
project and keeping it in good shape, and that by its very definition
does influence the development.

Anyway, focusing on this aspect is taking out the main part of what I
wrote above.

> Maintainers have a fiduciary duty to both the project's longevity and
> its contributors' collective vision.  Thus the robustness of the project
> and the ease of improvements are important.

And you are saying that this doesn't happen here?



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-23 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-20 15:13 My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-20 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-20 16:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21  6:22   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 10:05     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 11:23       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 11:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 10:29   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 12:26     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-20 16:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-20 17:04 ` tomas
2024-11-20 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21  2:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-21 12:34   ` Tree-sitter maturity (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Peter Oliver
2024-11-23 13:41     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-21 13:01   ` My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 13:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 14:29       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-22  0:01         ` Po Lu
2024-11-22  7:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22  8:14             ` Robert Pluim
2024-11-22  8:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 23:59               ` Po Lu
2024-11-23  6:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 16:29       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22  5:35     ` Adam Porter
2024-11-22  7:24       ` Madhu
2024-11-22  8:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22  9:26           ` Madhu
2024-11-22 12:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 12:40           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 13:06           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 13:39             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 14:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 10:57       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 23:19         ` Adam Porter
2024-11-22 15:36     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 17:48       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-23  6:10   ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-23  7:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 11:06       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-23 11:54         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-11-23 12:48           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21  5:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-22 11:36   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 11:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 10:36       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-23 11:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 13:39 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-21 19:01   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-21 19:19     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 19:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 19:40 ` Jim Porter
2024-11-21 23:57 ` Po Lu
2024-11-22 17:26 ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-22 17:47   ` Ship Mints
2024-11-22 19:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 19:01   ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23  6:10 ` My resignation from Emacs development Richard Stallman
2024-11-23  8:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23  6:10 ` Richard Stallman

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