From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cond* vs pcase Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:13:51 +0200 Message-ID: <86h6in0wr4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <DU2PR02MB10109F1CBA5F7A8D78A597A5D96472@DU2PR02MB10109.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30457"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 05 16:14:34 2024 Return-path: <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1rX0g5-0007fP-FP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2024 16:14:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces@gnu.org>) id 1rX0fV-0002VH-4M; Mon, 05 Feb 2024 10:13:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@gnu.org>) id 1rX0fT-0002Uu-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2024 10:13:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@gnu.org>) id 1rX0fS-0008DY-GP; Mon, 05 Feb 2024 10:13:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=PSRW9HcUGUYVaFqnQlnpPZpq1THmcmUaVbnboWxnkCE=; b=C0XQeccIQN9K XTCTrKOk61aFKJ6C93SzdKSVU4SafI0Vkbd6d+fAakCxgX4E6h/UxzKl7ATTDwBcNVHlABtymtDaq pxoHR5ydeKj8lSwxMYL2uJJrj5x+BD/w9t2h6iIClAM7K4iPC0aUbMnJJnyvcSIa8wI9NGLOn6Oot IWPhbki1X7Oqci4M9EStVpc4flig+1mWbDGRI5aKrh8wlzjsFQBzBpqBFGM+MZgXesP7s/2yG0f1L T7BRR/dWozbT5Py5Kx19yix9KBEqWMv4DxJkBMCu9SNKQOT5RrsBSlC+cCJ/FUSdIZK3vUwHSoT5q WtTkXXxzXumOnevNCoQwgA==; In-Reply-To: <DU2PR02MB10109F1CBA5F7A8D78A597A5D96472@DU2PR02MB10109.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com> (message from Arthur Miller on Mon, 05 Feb 2024 15:30:57 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315897 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/315897> > From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> > Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2024 15:30:57 +0100 > > To start with, I think none on this mailing list has asked this question > yet (or have I missed it?): why does it have to be a single form that does all > of the pattern stuff? Asked and answered: it doesn't have to be a single form that does all. > Why this obsession that we have to have one form, be it pcase or cond*, that > covers all cases of pattern usage in conditions? There's no obsession. > My second objection is, as many other stated here; if pcase is that hard, > resource heavy, and underdocumented, have you considred working to fix problems > and on the documentation of pcase, perhaps with Stefan? We are doing that as well. > I understand the objections to pcase, but I don't understand the answer. Hopefully, now you understand it better.