From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai Grossjohann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Feature freeze and Tramp? Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:07:09 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <86fza0lozm.fsf@slowfox.dyndns.org> References: <87zn8qlleb.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <87d65gj5j2.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <200405080234.i482YKE24109@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87wu3n4380.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <200405090140.i491eTW28920@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87n04gzb7h.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <200405110249.i4B2nND22278@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87sme7o2zu.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <200405120102.i4C127e12749@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <8765b2ksm7.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <200405121457.i4CEv8D15723@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87n04cvmtx.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <200405131402.i4DE2PF00789@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <86k6zd7ild.fsf@slowfox.dyndns.org> <200405151828.i4FIS1Y27500@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084698499 9065 80.91.224.253 (16 May 2004 09:08:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 09:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun May 16 11:08:10 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BPHcw-0003At-00 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:08:10 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BPHcw-0004rt-00 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:08:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BPHct-00062U-Jy for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 16 May 2004 05:08:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BPHcb-0005vq-CC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 May 2004 05:07:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BPHc2-0005ZS-Lb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 May 2004 05:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BPHc2-0005Yx-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 May 2004 05:07:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BPHbz-0003GM-00 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:07:11 +0200 Original-Received: from pd951f40e.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.244.14]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:07:11 +0200 Original-Received: from kai.grossjohann by pd951f40e.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:07:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd951f40e.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LVTA56dj6ceLdp/B7iVT6jRSixc= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23521 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23521 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Only on Solaris actually (Solaris2.8, more precisely). Strangely, > exporting does _not_ seem necessary on GNU/Linux. So _maybe_ Solaris' sh > uses a subshell for something bash uses no subshell for. I just > observed facts empirically. I do not understand them. Please submit a Tramp bug report, including the *debug tramp/foo* buffer as described in the instructions you get after M-x tramp-bug RET. Maybe that enables me to see what is going on. Thanks, Kai