From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4d3a595: `load-path' should contain only directory names
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 15:02:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86fv0x8kl6.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvd1w1ttjt.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:47:14 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Nothing, except that we can point them to the docs and say that they
>> live dangerously ;-)
>
> So you live dangerously if you forget the trailing slash in
> default-directory, but you live dangerously if you do add it in
> load-path?
Yes, that's what the current implementation provides. I agree it's not
consistent (apparently XEmacs is more consistent here).
> What's the benefit of this pickiness?
When you are writing code that iterates thru load-path, using the
entries for various things (checking that they exist, listing contents),
it helps to know how they are defined.
> Unless there's a real performance advantage (which I fail to see),
The only performance advantage so far is the difference between:
(expand-file-name file dir)
;; full defensive programming
(concat dir file)
;; assuming the doc string is right, and/or has been verified at a
;; higher level
which is not likely to be significant in code that is reading the actual
disk (that will be the slow part).
> I'd rather go the other way and be more permissive and fix
> default-directory so it also works correctly when it doesn't have a
> trailing slash.
You can't "fix" default-directory; you could change its definition, but
then you would have to fix (or at least verify)_every_ use of it, which
is impossible, since it could be used in everyone's private code.
We are changing the doc string of load-path, but only because it was
inconsistent with the actual implementation in core. It is now consistent.
--
-- Stephe
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[not found] ` <E1Zpcoe-00030Q-LS@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2015-10-24 13:49 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 4d3a595: `load-path' should contain only directory names Stefan Monnier
2015-10-24 14:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 21:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-25 3:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 2:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-26 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 9:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-24 21:37 ` Stephen Leake
2015-10-25 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 13:19 ` Stephen Leake
2015-10-26 13:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-26 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 17:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-26 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 18:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-26 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 19:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-27 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-27 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 19:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-27 19:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 22:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-28 3:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28 4:21 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-26 18:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-27 13:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-28 0:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-28 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-29 1:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-26 20:02 ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2015-10-26 20:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-27 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-27 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-27 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-28 7:34 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-28 15:49 ` Davis Herring
2015-10-28 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-28 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-28 18:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-28 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28 20:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-28 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-29 1:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-29 8:24 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28 21:02 ` Drew Adams
2015-10-29 1:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-29 3:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-29 5:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-23 14:14 ` Nicolas Richard
2015-11-23 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28 18:19 ` Random832
2015-10-28 22:04 ` Random832
2015-10-29 2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-29 13:30 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-10-29 2:32 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-29 4:33 ` Random832
2015-10-29 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-29 16:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-29 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-29 18:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-30 1:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-30 1:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-30 8:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-30 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-30 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-30 1:34 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-30 8:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-28 1:31 ` Stephen Leake
2015-10-26 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 17:55 ` Stephen Leake
2015-10-26 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 19:49 ` Stephen Leake
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