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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Info-mode patch
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2023 09:54:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86fs64maiv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB49776ED454C572BFB62548039629A@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (Arthur Miller's message of "Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:24:39 +0200")

>> But AFAIU, what you need is only to use with-current-buffer
>> wrapped around the interactive spec?  There is no need
>> to select another window/frame while reading from the minibuffer?
>
> As said earlier, that highly depends on the work done in the interactive form;
> but for the majority of commands, and those in info.el specifically, it should
> be enough I believe.

I agree, so commands that don't read the default value from the buffer
don't need even with-current-buffer.

> This works:
>
> (defun info-menu-wrapper ()
>   (interactive)
>   (let ((window (info-window)))
>     (with-current-buffer (window-buffer window)
>       (let ((args (eval (cadr (interactive-form 'Info-menu)))))
>         (with-selected-window window
>           (apply #'Info-menu args))))))
>
> I would still take it with a grain of salt that it will do in all cases, you
> should test each and every, but in majority cases it should work I think.

If you prefer calling the original command from the body
then better to use 'call-interactively'.  'interactive-form' is
more suitable for being called from the interactive spec of the wrapper.

>>> About wrapping; I agree that it is messy to go through each and every command as
>>> I did to modify them, so for old existing commands, it is definitely easier to
>>> do the wrapping, if possible. I just hope we get a better way for future command
>>> writing.
>>
>> I don't like creating wrapper commands too, but it seems there is no
>> better way, at least no one proposed anything better.
>
> You were against wrapping everything into with-selected-window, now you
> everything wrapped into another function :).

I still think that adding new wrapper commands is less wrong than
wrapping existing commands into with-selected-window.

> The positive about wrappers is they will work with old commands, and if you turn
> that into a:core package in Elpa, then even users of older Emacsens can use
> it. So I am definitely not against wrappers per se; nor do I believe we should
> rewrite each and every user command.
>
> But for writing new commands, I do suggest to implement better macro; because
> all this can abstracted away, so we don't double all the commands in the future.

I'm not sure if this should be a new coding convention for writing new commands
that should be mentioned in (info "(elisp) Programming Tips").



  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-04  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-26 16:09 Info-mode patch Arthur Miller
2023-06-26 17:56 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-26 20:17   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-27  6:32     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-27  7:54       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-27 18:11         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-27 23:09           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-28  6:50             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-28 21:52               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-29  6:44                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-29 12:42                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-29 15:00                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-29 16:24                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-29 17:44                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-29 22:28                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-30  7:13                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-30  8:41                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-30 17:57                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-01  9:11                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-02 17:53                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-02 18:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-02 22:43                                     ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-03 11:46                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03 12:57                                         ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-03 13:17                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03 18:40                                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-03 18:57                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04  6:50                                                 ` easy-menu-define keys for key-valid-p (was: Info-mode patch) Juri Linkov
2023-07-04 11:33                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03 21:07                                               ` Info-mode patch Arthur Miller
2023-07-04  7:59                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-04  8:44                                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-03 17:07                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 23:58                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-07-08  8:14                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-02 22:05                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-03 18:45                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-03 22:24                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-04  6:54                                         ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2023-07-04  9:43                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-04 17:51                                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-04 21:40                                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-05  6:17                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-05 14:25                                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-01  9:59                         ` Getting Gnus to highlight citations in long mails (was: Info-mode patch) Kévin Le Gouguec
2023-07-01 12:40                           ` Getting Gnus to highlight citations in long mails Arthur Miller
2023-07-02 17:56                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-27 11:45   ` Info-mode patch Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 12:15     ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-27 12:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 15:28         ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-27 16:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 16:33             ` Arthur Miller

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