From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Info-mode patch
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2023 09:54:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86fs64maiv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB49776ED454C572BFB62548039629A@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (Arthur Miller's message of "Tue, 04 Jul 2023 00:24:39 +0200")
>> But AFAIU, what you need is only to use with-current-buffer
>> wrapped around the interactive spec? There is no need
>> to select another window/frame while reading from the minibuffer?
>
> As said earlier, that highly depends on the work done in the interactive form;
> but for the majority of commands, and those in info.el specifically, it should
> be enough I believe.
I agree, so commands that don't read the default value from the buffer
don't need even with-current-buffer.
> This works:
>
> (defun info-menu-wrapper ()
> (interactive)
> (let ((window (info-window)))
> (with-current-buffer (window-buffer window)
> (let ((args (eval (cadr (interactive-form 'Info-menu)))))
> (with-selected-window window
> (apply #'Info-menu args))))))
>
> I would still take it with a grain of salt that it will do in all cases, you
> should test each and every, but in majority cases it should work I think.
If you prefer calling the original command from the body
then better to use 'call-interactively'. 'interactive-form' is
more suitable for being called from the interactive spec of the wrapper.
>>> About wrapping; I agree that it is messy to go through each and every command as
>>> I did to modify them, so for old existing commands, it is definitely easier to
>>> do the wrapping, if possible. I just hope we get a better way for future command
>>> writing.
>>
>> I don't like creating wrapper commands too, but it seems there is no
>> better way, at least no one proposed anything better.
>
> You were against wrapping everything into with-selected-window, now you
> everything wrapped into another function :).
I still think that adding new wrapper commands is less wrong than
wrapping existing commands into with-selected-window.
> The positive about wrappers is they will work with old commands, and if you turn
> that into a:core package in Elpa, then even users of older Emacsens can use
> it. So I am definitely not against wrappers per se; nor do I believe we should
> rewrite each and every user command.
>
> But for writing new commands, I do suggest to implement better macro; because
> all this can abstracted away, so we don't double all the commands in the future.
I'm not sure if this should be a new coding convention for writing new commands
that should be mentioned in (info "(elisp) Programming Tips").
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-04 6:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-26 16:09 Info-mode patch Arthur Miller
2023-06-26 17:56 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-26 20:17 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-27 6:32 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-27 7:54 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-27 18:11 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-27 23:09 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-28 6:50 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-28 21:52 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-29 6:44 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-29 12:42 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-29 15:00 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-29 16:24 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-29 17:44 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-29 22:28 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-30 7:13 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-30 8:41 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-30 17:57 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-01 9:11 ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-02 17:53 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-02 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-02 22:43 ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-03 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03 12:57 ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-03 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03 18:40 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-03 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 6:50 ` easy-menu-define keys for key-valid-p (was: Info-mode patch) Juri Linkov
2023-07-04 11:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-03 21:07 ` Info-mode patch Arthur Miller
2023-07-04 7:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-04 8:44 ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-03 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 23:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-07-08 8:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-02 22:05 ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-03 18:45 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-03 22:24 ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-04 6:54 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2023-07-04 9:43 ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-04 17:51 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-04 21:40 ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-05 6:17 ` Juri Linkov
2023-07-05 14:25 ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-01 9:59 ` Getting Gnus to highlight citations in long mails (was: Info-mode patch) Kévin Le Gouguec
2023-07-01 12:40 ` Getting Gnus to highlight citations in long mails Arthur Miller
2023-07-02 17:56 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-27 11:45 ` Info-mode patch Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 12:15 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-27 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 15:28 ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-27 16:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-27 16:33 ` Arthur Miller
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