From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Physical keyboard events Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:24:38 +0200 Message-ID: <86fro7uo6h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <31bdc55d-8c13-4de0-9cef-bd6cc4fb033f@imayhem.com> <19ab52d0-88bd-4378-8fa8-8603e01233e3@imayhem.com> <871pzrl4sn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87o72vjk1f.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10554"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: cpardo@imayhem.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 04 14:25:24 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t7x5A-0002U7-7c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 14:25:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7x4U-00011N-2w; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 08:24:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7x4S-00010m-OG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 08:24:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7x4S-0000Dx-Es; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 08:24:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=o3A8JHSg+fteTsYXHw193WV2EBHoU53mD8KmZsx45jQ=; b=duFm9K1amVoY JCBwo9/r4h0ifz8HvvHITftTugUYZLe7WSk8Tzwr3mctBxWQz3CRfmxzumhoBsSklLyxC6Odul6r4 aZQRHziMZMLAhP/bpq+kuzIST9X4B/bSzfAL/HbTTJNpjYykWubp8uPs675l30NI7E+oay7HFjPRG y4iQva0AjEbkPhIJ4z16S7Nl6vh6QLeuTr6VHZb2k7YHoe+F0lANTRvHnamFl2KQkqPvZux4ve5l8 0v0uDPf2xYIwEuGgFaFZsCuyYSAViI/TjrgEdYUZ6sKcAFI64X+3RzNgxZKYfoLhlKtHgaCiyV7qp o45a3AO8UL8F5sz99U6O9Q==; In-Reply-To: <87o72vjk1f.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Mon, 04 Nov 2024 19:49:32 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325101 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 19:49:32 +0800 > > Cecilio Pardo writes: > > > The intention right now is just to allow users to bind actions to > > multiple taps on shift, control and alt keys. Using these keys and not > > others is just because these keys don't normally do anything when > > pressed alone, not because they are modifiers. If an users' > > customization or his input method(s) makes this unconvenient or > > impossible, then this is not for that user, and should not use it. > > My point is that users frequently customize or exchange the positions of > these modifier keys, and it is the resultant modifiers that they expect > Emacs to report, not the keysyms, in special events or elsewhere. They should not expect that with these physical events, IMO.