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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Variable pitch mode line
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 10:21:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ee62o4bs.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv35mjgl6z.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 23 Dec 2021 14:50:26 -0500")

>> I don't believe that distro packagers might want to include Info manuals
>> in the HTML format when only Emacs will display them but not the standalone
>> Info reader.
>
> I'm not sure they include Info manuals mainly for the standalone info
> viewer either.  But in any case, currently I don't think any doc viewer
> has a good story for "use HTML as replacement for Info", so it's clear
> that if we want it to happen, we need to start by making Emacs support
> it well.  And only later, *maybe*, distros and other Info viewers will
> follow suit.

Then better to start with own dog food, and first display Emacs manuals
from HTML.  There is already a make target that produces HTML files:

  make html

Currently HTML files are generated in the source dir, that is wrong:

  doc/emacs/emacs.html

The correct place would be in the Info output dir:

  info/emacs.html

so it could reuse INFOPATH to find HTML Info manuals as well.

Then after visiting the generated HTML with eww, when proportional fonts
are enabled with `eww-toggle-fonts`, the output looks nice.
But rendering a large HTML file takes too much time.  So while
a single HTML file is still preferable over multifile Info manuals,
the Info reader should limit rendering to the currently displayed
Info node only.

Using a single HTML file will also make online reading of remote HTML
manuals easier.  For example, simply point the Emacs Info reader to
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/emacs.html
and it could fetch the whole HTML file, then navigate its nodes.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-24  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-22 13:14 Variable pitch mode line Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-22 14:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 15:21 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-22 17:34 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-22 20:14   ` Tassilo Horn
2021-12-22 20:42     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-22 20:49       ` Tassilo Horn
2021-12-23 17:16     ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-23 17:52       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-23 18:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 18:38           ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-23 19:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 19:39               ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-23 19:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 19:55                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-23 18:27       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-23 18:35         ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-23 18:47           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-23 19:00             ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-23 19:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-23 19:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 20:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-23 20:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 20:48                       ` HTML info Yuan Fu
2021-12-24  8:34                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-24  8:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  9:02                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24  9:38                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 19:16                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-25 18:01                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-26  9:50                             ` Yuan Fu
2021-12-26 10:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-26 17:30                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-27 18:32                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-26 11:48                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-26 11:53                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-26 11:57                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-26 12:07                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  8:21                 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2021-12-24 11:42                   ` Variable pitch mode line Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 12:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 12:27                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 12:32                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 12:53                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 13:12                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 13:34                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 13:36                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 13:45                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 13:48                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 13:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 14:01                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 14:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 15:05                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 15:16                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 15:43                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 15:44                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 17:03                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 11:59                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-25 12:07                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-26 11:28                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-26 11:43                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-26 11:51                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-26 11:56                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-26 12:02                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-26 12:11                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-26 12:25                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-26 12:59                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-27 10:32                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-27 14:52                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-26 15:32                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-25 17:54                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-26  1:27                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-26  7:39                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-26  8:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 19:27       ` Tassilo Horn
2021-12-23 19:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 19:48           ` Tassilo Horn
2021-12-23 20:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 20:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 19:45         ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-23 20:41       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-23 20:51         ` Yuan Fu
2021-12-23 20:56           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-23 21:00             ` Yuan Fu
2021-12-23 21:24               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-23 21:41                 ` Yuan Fu
2021-12-23 23:00                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-23 23:28                     ` Yuan Fu
2021-12-24  7:14                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-24  7:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  0:50                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-24  3:58                     ` Yuan Fu
2021-12-24  5:00                       ` Drew Adams
2021-12-24  6:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  6:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  7:55           ` Tomas Hlavaty

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