From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 09:50:38 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86ed8ce2mh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <875xto7lbn.fsf@dancol.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21716"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Stefan Kangas , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 02 08:59:32 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sOXUC-0005Wt-D0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 08:59:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOXTn-0003q1-0F; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 02:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOXTl-0003pW-8A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 02:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOXTi-0002T9-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 02:59:04 -0400 Original-Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3B4B3C0006; Tue, 2 Jul 2024 06:58:57 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <875xto7lbn.fsf@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Mon, 01 Jul 2024 19:18:36 -0400") X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.198; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay6-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321101 Archived-At: >> Thus, I don't think I see any compelling reason not to go ahead with >> this change. I would propose that we now start discussing the specifics >> of how to go about doing that (patches, proposed alternative solutions). > > How's this? > > +@kindex C-x 4 LEFT > +@kindex C-x 4 RIGHT > +@kindex C-x 4 UP > +@kindex C-x 4 DOWN I can't believe someone might want to use such long key sequences for one of the most frequent actions. It's even longer than 'C-x o' it's supposed to improve. I think there are no better keys for switching windows than arrows with a modifier. Since all keybindings in the 'C-x 4' keymap are for commands that display a buffer in another window, 'C-x 4 LEFT/...' could do the same to display the buffer of the next command in the specified window.