From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: choice for the new emacs icon Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:32:03 +0100 Message-ID: <86d4r9i030.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <200802050135.m151ZGDH005052@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcgof9as.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200802060547.m165lAPb003310@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87sl05v61m.fsf@jurta.org> <85sl05yy4v.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202376750 29806 80.91.229.12 (7 Feb 2008 09:32:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 10:32:52 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JN37a-00007n-0F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:32:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JN377-0004d6-3q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:32:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JN373-0004cx-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:32:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JN371-0004ca-Tr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:32:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JN371-0004cX-NC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:32:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.quinscape.de ([212.29.44.217]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JN371-0007zv-8W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:32:07 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail-ldap/ctrl 27968 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 09:32:05 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Feb 2008 09:32:04 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AA7948FABB; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:32:03 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:56:53 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.3-2; AVE: 7.6.0.62; VDF: 7.0.2.102; host: quinx) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88412 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > David Kastrup writes: >> Given the state of MULE in Emacs 20, a mushroom cloud would likely have >> been more appropriate. The investment into utf-8 now pays off, but boy >> did it hurt at that time. > > Dunno, never had any real problems with it. Well, you are living in a country that makes do with the ASCII subset: not much room for trouble there. I certainly did experience problems. \201 is probably a hard-wired visual for me. After the Unicode merge, there won't even be much of an opportunity for bugs/coding problems to trigger \201 nostalgia. We'll get different artifacts if at all. -- David Kastrup