From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Moreton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 02:54:12 +0000 Message-ID: <86czz2tusr.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <56d1484e-6f41-575f-0fbb-fd2bd99ab152@yandex.ru> <87eejqnlxk.fsf@gnus.org> <875z52nlqa.fsf@gnus.org> <87lfdvjvx3.fsf@gnus.org> <871rflj3fh.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22559"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (windows-nt) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:AC6brIC4OnottjSC4hbEXJsD07c= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 22 03:54:57 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krXpB-0005kP-21 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2020 03:54:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43364 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krXpA-0004ms-3R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:54:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42846) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krXoe-0004LW-8B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:54:24 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:57252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krXoc-00074k-1f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:54:24 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krXoY-000583-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2020 03:54:18 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261456 Archived-At: On Mon 21 Dec 2020, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Thank you. It is interesting. > > One thing I noticed is that there seem to be difficulties in GUD > (debugging under Emacs). That is a gad situation. Can we encourage > users to report the problems, and devote effort to debugging them? Can you please quote the relevant part of the message you are replying to ? It is jarring to read a message without any context. That is a discourtesy to readers, who must work harder to find which part of a message you are replying to (and some client software makes that harder by not threading messages properly). AndyM