From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Moreton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Getting ready to land native-compilation on master Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 12:40:29 +0100 Message-ID: <86czv2bc5u.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87a6q7xtz1.fsf@subst.net> <83czv36zjb.fsf@gnu.org> <86y2drc88j.fsf@gmail.com> <835z0u7gdl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19076"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (windows-nt) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:p/A/CgeCzY2KDJ4GL3qw9rVNYeo= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 10 13:42:05 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lVC05-0004na-4e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 13:42:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49078 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVC04-0000Lb-6L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 07:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38184) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVByj-0008GC-5U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 07:40:42 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:40282) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVByf-0007OM-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 07:40:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lVByd-00039Y-DP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 13:40:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267808 Archived-At: On Sat 10 Apr 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Andy Moreton >> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 01:07:40 +0100 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ATM to go further I think the approach would be dumping passes and/or >> >> starting to look into the source code. I tried my best to share with >> >> the community what I was working on and how but is not the easiest when >> >> the thing is being worked. >> > >> > I think it would be good to take the relevant parts of your blog and >> > rewrite them as introductory commentary to the code in comp.el, with >> > the goal of providing enough overview and background information to >> > let people discover the details by reading the code. >> >> Perhaps some of this material could be added to the "GNU Emacs >> Internals" section of the elisp manual. > > Some of it, probably. But most of that stuff is inappropriate for the > manual. We have in several files large commentaries that provide > overview of the design and implementation of various features. For > example, the beginning of xdisp.c and coding.c, the overview of w32 > subprocess support in w32proc.c, etc. I was thinking about a similar > overview in comp.el. Agreed: I expect that the lower level detail would go in comp.el and a higher level overview in the manual. AndyM