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[2001:44b8:31f2:bb00:842a:7361:87c7:2662]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y5-20020aa79ae5000000b0052db82ad8b2sm2596123pfp.123.2022.08.19.14.43.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 19 Aug 2022 14:43:02 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x52d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293652 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> How about position-at-bol or pos-at-bol? >> >> (IMO, it's confusing to talk about "point at SOMEWHERE" because that's >> not how we use the term "point", except in the context of describing >> point's position.) > > > > +1. `position-at-...' makes sense, and > `point-at...' does not. > > Point is the _current_ cursor position in some > buffer. And window point is the cursor position > for the buffer displayed in some window. > > The names `point-min|max' are legacy. No need > to change them to `position-min|max'. But they > shouldn't be used as a precedent for starting > to name position variables and functions with > "point" instead of "position" (or "pos"). > ___ > > (Separate point (!), but related: we shouldn't > talk about the "position of point". Point _is_ > a position - the position of the cursor. > > E.g., +1 for Eli's point (!) here, but not for > speaking of "point's position", which just means > the _position of the position_ of the cursor.) > > +1