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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
Cc: visuweshm@gmail.com, pinmacs@cas.cat, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: yank-media: allow users to limit image types that can be inserted
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 19:34:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86cykufhw7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877cb2fj0c.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Mon, 23 Sep 2024 18:10:43 +0200)

> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
> Cc: visuweshm@gmail.com,  pinmacs@cas.cat,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 18:10:43 +0200
> 
> >>>>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 18:54:25 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:
> 
>     >> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
>     >> Cc: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>,  pinmacs@cas.cat,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
>     >> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:09:03 +0200
>     >> 
>     Eli> IMO, for users we already have what is needed: when we detect several
>     Eli> formats, we show them to the user and ask him/her to tell us which
>     Eli> format he/she wants to use.
>     >> 
>     >> But that requires user interaction. I think the original request could
>     >> be summed up as "if the list contains image/png, donʼt ask me, just
>     >> insert the image".
> 
>     Eli> That's not how I understand the request.  It was not always PNG, it
>     Eli> was "sometimes PNG, but if so-and-so-happens, the JPEG" etc.
> 
> Yes, but the "so-and-so" is determined by a user option. So
> 
> 1. Always prefer "png" -> user option == "png"
> 2. Want to choose between "png" and "jpeg" -> user option == ("png"
> "jpeg")
> 3. All of the formats -> user option == nil

That makes little sense to me: how can the user decide in advance to
use only PNG? by what logic?

And anyway, this is not what the OP said.  Let's get back to what he
said:

>     Eli> And no one has explained yet why I would prefer PNG to JPEG or vice
>     Eli> versa, btw.  The usual choices I'm familiar with is whether or not to
>     Eli> preserve typefaces, colors, and other fancy attributes; regarding
>     Eli> images, there's just a decision whether you want to paste the material
>     Eli> as a picture or as some kind of text, whether rich or not.  So the
>     Eli> background and the context for this request is still not clear to me.
> 
> I can definitely see a use for case 1 above: "donʼt bother asking me,
> if png is available just use that".

I don't understand why would someone define their preference in the
terms of image format.  It makes no sense.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-23 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-22 16:53 yank-media: allow users to limit image types that can be inserted pinmacs
2024-09-23 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-23 13:46   ` Visuwesh
2024-09-23 14:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-23 15:06       ` Visuwesh
2024-09-23 15:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-23 15:09       ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-23 15:14         ` Visuwesh
2024-09-23 15:20           ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-23 15:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-24  5:00             ` Visuwesh
2024-09-24  5:10               ` Visuwesh
2024-09-24 11:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-24 12:42                 ` Visuwesh
2024-09-23 15:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-23 16:10           ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-23 16:34             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-09-23 18:00               ` pinmacs
2024-09-23 18:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-23 20:45                   ` Pedro
2024-09-23 21:08                   ` pinmacs
2024-09-24  8:15                     ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-24 11:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-24 12:18                       ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-24 13:08                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-24 13:38                           ` Visuwesh
2024-09-24 13:50                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-24  5:08                   ` Visuwesh
2024-09-24 12:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-24 12:50                       ` Visuwesh
2024-09-24 13:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-24 13:37                           ` Visuwesh
2024-09-23 18:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-24  8:38                 ` Robert Pluim

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