* Please rename trusted-content to trusted-contents
@ 2024-12-20 5:23 Richard Stallman
2024-12-20 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2024-12-20 5:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
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"Contents" and "content" are two different words, and for this
meaning, "contents" is correct. It means the contents of the
file, and that's what we refer to here.
Please let's rename that symbol now before it gets into a release.
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* Re: Please rename trusted-content to trusted-contents
2024-12-20 5:23 Please rename trusted-content to trusted-contents Richard Stallman
@ 2024-12-20 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-20 9:42 ` Stefan Kangas
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-20 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:23:32 -0500
>
> "Contents" and "content" are two different words, and for this
> meaning, "contents" is correct. It means the contents of the
> file, and that's what we refer to here.
>
> Please let's rename that symbol now before it gets into a release.
The Emacs 30.0.93 pretest was already uploaded with "trusted-content"
in it. So if we rename it now, we will need to support both
spellings, via defvaralias. I'm not sure the problem is acute enough
to justify such last-minute changes.
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* Re: Please rename trusted-content to trusted-contents
2024-12-20 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-12-20 9:42 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-20 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2024-12-20 9:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii, rms; +Cc: emacs-devel
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
>> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:23:32 -0500
>>
>> "Contents" and "content" are two different words, and for this
>> meaning, "contents" is correct. It means the contents of the
>> file, and that's what we refer to here.
>>
>> Please let's rename that symbol now before it gets into a release.
>
> The Emacs 30.0.93 pretest was already uploaded with "trusted-content"
> in it. So if we rename it now, we will need to support both
> spellings, via defvaralias. I'm not sure the problem is acute enough
> to justify such last-minute changes.
Do we really maintain backwards-compatibility with all pretest releases
also? I usually consider them more like development branches: used for
testing, not for production.
In any case, I think using the right word is better, so if we need a
defvaralias then so be it, IMO. I don't see how it could hurt, and we
could even define-obsolete-variable-alias.
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* Re: Please rename trusted-content to trusted-contents
2024-12-20 9:42 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2024-12-20 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-20 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: rms, emacs-devel
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 04:42:31 -0500
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> >> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:23:32 -0500
> >>
> >> "Contents" and "content" are two different words, and for this
> >> meaning, "contents" is correct. It means the contents of the
> >> file, and that's what we refer to here.
> >>
> >> Please let's rename that symbol now before it gets into a release.
> >
> > The Emacs 30.0.93 pretest was already uploaded with "trusted-content"
> > in it. So if we rename it now, we will need to support both
> > spellings, via defvaralias. I'm not sure the problem is acute enough
> > to justify such last-minute changes.
>
> Do we really maintain backwards-compatibility with all pretest releases
> also? I usually consider them more like development branches: used for
> testing, not for production.
We don't usually maintain compatibility in those cases, but this
situation is special: we are very close to the release, and I don't
want to waste one more pretest because we renamed the variable.
> In any case, I think using the right word is better, so if we need a
> defvaralias then so be it, IMO. I don't see how it could hurt, and we
> could even define-obsolete-variable-alias.
From where I stand, if we decide to rename it, we must have a
defvaralias for the other name.
And FWIW, renaming doesn't sound very important to me: Emacs is full
of mis-spellings and English usage that is not 110% correct, so I
don't see this as a catastrophe. After all, Stefan's English is
either his first language or close, so if he is okay with that name,
we are not in a bad place.
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