From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tree-sitter introduction documentation Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:31:51 +0000 Message-ID: <86ce084803fb642d8fae@heytings.org> References: <868rj6vfep.fsf@gmail.com> <4895891b-e5ea-9c37-f51b-df2e479ee758@yandex.ru> <83y1qt11xq.fsf@gnu.org> <9eb013da-d0fc-8e17-c6e3-1e8f913aebfa@yandex.ru> <83pmc50xxc.fsf@gnu.org> <71cfe4e8-3bb8-b0a6-9be5-8c0a6d92cfab@yandex.ru> <83h6xg29z3.fsf@gnu.org> <838ris22n4.fsf@gnu.org> <8335901zz3.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz84y5le.fsf@posteo.net> <3F91FDEA-881A-49DB-BB52-5A0D81C004CE@gmail.com> <87k02aihrz.fsf@posteo.net> <86ce08480352653995b8@heytings.org> <87r0wigqnb.fsf@posteo.net> <86ce08480372e6e5db04@heytings.org> <87358ygmm4.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32493"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Yuan Fu , Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii , Dmitry Gutov , Tim Cross , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 29 18:32:36 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pAwlf-0008Fw-GG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 18:32:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pAwl4-0003Nz-2r; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 12:31:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pAwl2-0003Na-G8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 12:31:56 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pAwl0-0006PK-6z; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 12:31:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1672335111; bh=gcY0UH2FHhjFbgAb9H2q/7Eo8xsDOZeUQ5k6U0HxC/o=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=FCbuX4MucqS2b/ih8rTOAJZZ2XEsM9+SOyYkngjf2V73vQR1ficBwIlrxAhBSFcyn sAfHiLFkcaVO6aKNjqorq086Xr39sxxfvQUqqEthC2EGl1OKGA4//nRnenU9L5Yp48 owuFLLMgL7uYcMFZU7696Rxs1hSvIywVf9wzuLfa0deZrD0jQ+QePwspUW38h7hfy/ a28J89+ccIEpaqrIIIeaBkIWqk+4E7gww3HUIMAuPhARm/hX3e7cy+mn2IJTbIjQcr nwAMAPURBS8cJSFcDDR8/wgqCvfnfNnXjQx3ip5p/t0uxInMVsRbkHPp8rjlyBblg7 hFR2TDZzZaQaQ== In-Reply-To: <87358ygmm4.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302052 Archived-At: >> I'm puzzled. What would be the benefit of doing that? Installing >> Node.js and tree-sitter is easy. > > Not always, I always have issues with Node.js on Debian Stable. > Especially when external dependencies are added to the mix. > I don't use Debian stable, so I can't comment on that. On Debian testing (which is pretty stable!) installing the complete toolchain requires only two commands: $ apt install gcc g++ nodejs rust-all $ cargo install tree-sitter-cli That takes a couple of minutes at most. > > The advantage would be a simpler toolchain that would require less > effort for the user to get running, instead of dealing with version > mismatches and dependency resolution. > As you know, regular users do not need to install the complete toolchain, a C and C++ compiler is enough. It is only those few users that want to change the grammars or create new grammars that need a complete toolchain.