From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:37:13 +0200 Message-ID: <86bq0rjobq.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87myki6fqp.fsf@jurta.org> <87mykhz6tf.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeokrku.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeogih6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <488020A4.4060601@harpegolden.net> <873am6rb8k.fsf@jurta.org> <87r69oqojm.fsf@jurta.org> <48841992.6030604@harpegolden.net> <877ibfipbg.fsf@jurta.org> <86k5fflcev.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86fxq3joxe.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <48849E2F.6020009@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216651062 19502 80.91.229.12 (21 Jul 2008 14:37:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 21 16:38:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KKwWr-0006Fq-EL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:38:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33766 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKwVy-0004yQ-A5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:37:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKwVs-0004ua-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:37:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKwVo-0004o2-9T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:37:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47831 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKwVn-0004nW-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.quinscape.de ([212.29.44.217]:41192) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KKwVn-0005uY-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail-ldap/ctrl 5413 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2008 14:37:13 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by quinx.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jul 2008 14:37:12 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2D3588EEEF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:37:13 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <48849E2F.6020009@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:33:19 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.3-2; AVE: 7.8.1.11; VDF: 7.0.5.146; host: quinx) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101078 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > David Kastrup wrote: >> bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockg=E5rd) writes: >> >>> David Kastrup writes: >>> >>>> bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockg=E5rd) writes: >>>> >>>>> Juri Linkov writes: >>>>> >>>>>> To do this we should find only one special key to activate input by >>>>>> number. I propose `RET'. >>>>> I suggest C-q. >>>> That leaves the user without a reasonable or obvious key combination to >>>> insert C-q. >>> C-q C-q C-q >> >> Where is the reasoning or obviousness? > > Maybe: easy to type, easy to remember + a little message after C-q C-q I don't like it. I think that _if_ we are going to overload C-q, we should use characters that are _not_ in the normal use set of C-q. U is tolerable in that regard, and so would be x and o. But C-q or RET or # (some recent suggestions) are not in that set in my opinion. --=20 David Kastrup