From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [SPAM UNSURE] Re: policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 02:56:35 -0800 Message-ID: <86bldh9r4s.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <86eeifawx8.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83a6t274ru.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18653"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (windows-nt) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 22 11:57:43 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l2u8M-0004h1-9P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:57:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55704 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2u8L-0005mO-Ak for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 05:57:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56348) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2u7T-00059q-8V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 05:56:47 -0500 Original-Received: from gateway34.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.148.214]:27038) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2u7R-0002qh-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 05:56:46 -0500 Original-Received: from cm12.websitewelcome.com (cm12.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.8]) by gateway34.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDB7D7CCF1 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 04:56:39 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from host2007.hostmonster.com ([67.20.76.71]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 2u7Llio3xiQiZ2u7LlGLut; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 04:56:39 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stephe-leake.org; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=3IH0/iUt069tujUJMNWpEB2iFoSZTi5BY6bm8qAthF8=; b=KfgIFrs93v1uQHMd26Pq2tOGb Q9wgzkbGNSshJjDjR2feOjt38/mSMbUUU7TBwfJqAMtlgO1U/6PsI+K7pRKPUSYEnUIbf4oooh4nD XP2N1eK+YjYjCcYlg3HulFmZiDYOlRPF2Rzbdqodh+OTYvPYVPF3a858F6qu9mFEtCF4bdsX6Rb7t FCKucGjbKfIAA2vp+yiYWS4Ap6pf1z+uycY68loNCFQR2Qky03J+y11triPfmwo5sqK/zuWqZBXlP UQmgP9oeKpX18R2w8lKqaTv9xQzJbWZPIReGc6JSJ8lZbyuzidYIbAQa4Vh7GmbUhtdKsdMB8Dtoi kdGX618gw==; Original-Received: from [76.77.182.20] (port=63079 helo=Takver4) by host2007.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1l2u7K-002W6S-Qv; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 03:56:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83a6t274ru.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 21 Jan 2021 16:17:57 +0200") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2007.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stephe-leake.org X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 76.77.182.20 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1l2u7K-002W6S-Qv X-Source-Sender: (Takver4) [76.77.182.20]:63079 X-Source-Auth: stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: c3RlcGhlbGU7c3RlcGhlbGU7aG9zdDIwMDcuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes Received-SPF: neutral client-ip=192.185.148.214; envelope-from=stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org; helo=gateway34.websitewelcome.com X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263270 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stephen Leake >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 17:41:39 -0800 >> >> Eli has said he wants the bundled packages in the emacs worktree; I'd >> like to explore the specific rationale for that. > > I explained that in the discussion we had back in December. See > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-12/msg00917.html > >> Comments? > > We had this discussion in December, and I think at least some aspects > were agreed upon; one of them is that using Git submodules is probably > the best alternative. Why don't we pick up where that discussion has > left off, instead of starting it all anew? I did not realize that was a decision. I'll change the baseline to use submodules. -- -- Stephe