From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MPS experiment successful Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:49:48 +0300 Message-ID: <86bk68gfab.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86le5cgmp3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17344"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 17 17:50:33 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rx7YO-0004LK-V4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 17:50:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rx7Xl-0005tS-Jn; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:49:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rx7Xj-0005tG-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rx7Xj-0006Vy-0P; Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:49:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=CR7Stb9YejLF4czE8IBRbzht4YyQGrN1XgFNFTHLAVw=; b=dTPUKJlK3puZqKmFfnBC FP8/FxH1BtymRWjyjpTvSx3uIcdLtbsztoT26XCQ5HdUokvy6Sm2NDOrRGy1PkxU5igvtEfRl/rg8 dK+Q4xtRRPxz4TJiAejKPMDMQF/dSMJn4pN9I1pQtlgjoZHb1lmmMUIYrms+oLelAjSYF6ikUItPG ov6fCKJ/h30Q+VOQTzQoSqCqLi4Rl75TKkshUTUI4psA0GNyYUxbUCMd08nFQwJO9BuJneBJ7ohfk oXoqllZkOF5xYXlDY8rXg+GBbIGAwkeG9lJ6rZFvZsaQ9zyWSC97SwQz/xa0lSnencwFRF8BQ149C 4HYMthvTVfBeLA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B6llmann?= on Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:30:42 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317775 Archived-At: > From: Gerd Möllmann > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:30:42 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> That's all. There is nothing more. And I'm currently undecided how to > >> proceed with this. > > > > The next step would be to push a feature branch into the Emacs Git > > repository and let people try the branch on the other supported > > platforms. If the code is not yet mature enough for that, please > > suggest how to get from here to there. > > I think technically it could be done, but there are some things that > would need to be done. From the top of my head: > > - CL packages vs. obarrays (I do have packages but no obarrays) > - Handling of pure space > - Handling the new JSON stuff, which I don't have in my branch, I think. > - ... The packages code will need to be moved aside, yes. But for the rest, why shouldn't a simple merge do the job? They seem to be orthogonal, by and large. What is the issue with handling pure space? > Will increase memory usage in its current state, part of which could be > optimized. How much larger is the memory footprint? > Some configurations/platform might not be possible to support. Which ones?