From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tree-sitter maturity Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 17:31:52 +0200 Message-ID: <86bjwxw39z.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1ed88fca-788a-fe9f-b6c8-edb2f49751c9@mavit.org.uk> <67428b3d.c80a0220.2f3036.adbdSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> <86ldwdm7xg.fsf@gnu.org> <6765355b.c80a0220.1a6b24.3117SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> <00554790-CACA-4233-8846-9E091CF1F7AA@gmail.com> <86msgl2red.fsf@gnu.org> <87o710sr7y.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <8734i9tmze.fsf@posteo.net> <86plldwb7w.fsf@gnu.org> <86h66pw4sd.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15372"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 27 16:32:28 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tRCKC-0003sB-IV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2024 16:32:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tRCJo-0004tr-Nn; Fri, 27 Dec 2024 10:32:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tRCJm-0004tM-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2024 10:32:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tRCJm-0002uX-Dc; Fri, 27 Dec 2024 10:32:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=f9/NWN9u+ePe30V3KDP7K1n6GJ969oy5i/ok0c3qP9c=; b=rNxd8NdVG9dz zBmbLhFaea3JHYAOfJQFnDKGMB1vBYPotEolVYfEwO/4lknXR17Owluu0y496KumxffnnCk4FKcF2 6kypqhNL2ddbs231F4AtGqtBB+EoXFcaBdH+G/rRyeAdWz/q73AYiV3PwUhTiWpsg1I1N+dHxUM3t O5GNZvZ1FqnNiNhqQq23Kkr95c/j44cS5rQZm4B0NANYKkdTXCTatXAis0wgJjw8Taep/x1XcnVTh k8FPbUncBqNWFwqVkd7n9RP3zT5XImL69zuDqmW3+bfAYoAt8j6eSSbBTZFqV8jfhnw11MaZaHs4u TixpDrie+XMPwWDRJzrh4Q==; In-Reply-To: (message from Daniel Colascione on Fri, 27 Dec 2024 10:05:47 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327205 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 10:05:47 -0500 > From: Daniel Colascione > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, manphiz@gmail.com > > >> Why not just vendor all the grammars with the Emacs modes that use them? > > > >We'd need to ask their developers to agree to this. > > Why? They're free software. For copyright assignment? Seems like an exception would make sense here. AFAIK, that was the policy until now: we should have written agreement by authors to include any code in Emacs. RMS might know more, because he asked for that. > > Other than that, > >I don't see how is that different from pointing to a specific version > >of each grammar: both will be outdated a short time after we point to > >the version or release Emacs with that version. > > > >So why do you think this is better? > > Vendoring enables building a full featured Emacs without a network connection and guarantees build reproducibility in perpetuity. Is a network connection really a serious problem nowadays?