From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260833 Archived-At: I'd like to close https://debbugs.gnu.org/39553 . One way to resolve it is to restore the old emacs core ada-mode, but in lisp/obsolete, and with comments indicatiung that it is unmaintained and superceded by the ELPA package. Another way to resolve it is to accept the status quo. Another way is to include ada-mode in the distribution tarball, but I believe the infrastructure for that is not yet implemented. In addition, since ELPA ada-mode requires Ada code compilation, it is not a direct replacement for the elisp-only old core ada-mode. This would establish a precedent/policy for other packages that move to ELPA but prefer not to keep a copy in core. Personally, I prefer the status quo, but I'm ok with putting the old code in lisp/obsolete. Eli, Lars; I'd like an official ruling on this. -- -- Stephe