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Dieter Wilhelm" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Emacs pretest 28.0.91 is out Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:15:33 +0100 Message-ID: <86a6g0t8bu.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> References: <8735lvngyx.fsf@yahoo.com> <865yqquexk.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83wnj55d5d.fsf@gnu.org> <86mtk0u036.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83o84g4064.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31900"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, corwin@bru.st, stefan@marxist.se, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 13 08:24:06 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n7uSr-00088y-Pc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:24:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60114 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7uSq-0003AR-Lu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 02:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38000) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7uKr-00008L-0p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 02:15:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:47801) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7uKp-0003nC-8j; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 02:15:48 -0500 Original-Received: from ping ([92.116.178.13]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MYehP-1mtpjA051X-00Vf0l; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:15:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83o84g4064.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:30:59 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:nVes5Dzu4sTVg9qJcqV2c9A4GBi10Zz1K/ksyd2SkV3PpRIay2x qJ+QGI2II+ow6gFZfDe7VXmZCyU29Mae8t6c771EbDOJXafM+AF41RtstDY5uOSjHM90Eu1 yF4y3lOYRKoyC7TDdkej/lbF1f9lIbjq+obm0fkKxmo4dUv88EIMr5W3zjeoDd30FXKxj6x H+8A7mR65hr8sjxa5tz/Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:QQn4rgnXl/k=:d+ff6SklEDW5KqDzWxL58t 7BKYjBDl160eEiSj6Qoy3i2XrEfuA1AF7tlm5mYqvm/IxSr0gvpDzdevyihjsfv+XGXCebBv0 d4a3i2ENBSm8dQ3t51pHRm1agnrXl+Ig1FEz3yymqF3egvBQ4NvYqA5mHEQdJcWFI2bjNG8zP 36lemqOSUYpEeglXL2RU129Ne263wrOd/x2ynnwu76vPnsSgk7S//MY6IICJdMCtjM5aJdT9a CgslRuR+afA66A+O+axavJ/oBpCJZefHQjk3TI+p/Fa/Lb010jNe8RxytIw6TMXHNsxgyqr/B 1kHEEYMPN2k+EZmPR6mQdsHq8Ats4JgGQKs9u/5GZ0VyJuuhRBrIYEPut9vrJEsEVRJmYePdy 7j584j2LwqVDz+h86tq7psgvpkqoJGXXU8frYf5WTTqZ2KNtETvKXT+kqsFWhCYuScbyCsO+k 4DnE/Hoi9f426AvaicwVOVxVvWXtkskW/r6hpVGhBVf2jHmtBgzDVsykqMOz7LShtoRve6avZ vGI3xX4ul0/xYuUQvTsIgxeQLzyefAo7Z0zYaZDrHgCVeeO8q0Vhgbd1Yz2zswN+M95eQe8b7 sGM5zK6z/6bo8ZFzweJFGhR0fi9aE9sEYall5XY2Zq/3Aiq/AY1YRaxNPGRzWMJljrIWLDMuW /CcDg1fytmdTIH0rDhJ9XSKTNIxnNurbhydgXr2YPCj2AN8a0KhYpFjxf4Xbb9/0viC4tuo1n 5z/YS9rjLWsGsEma Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.227.126.187; envelope-from=dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de; helo=mout.kundenserver.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284682 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" >> Cc: Corwin Brust , luangruo@yahoo.com, stefan@marxist.se, >> drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:15:57 +0100 >> >> > I'm not sure this is correct/justified. Wouldn't it be better to have >> > just one build that could support both variants? It is supposed to >> > work that way, but I don't think anyone tested this in practice. It >> > would be good to see if that indeed works as intended, and if not, >> > report the issues which prevent that. >> >> I don't quite understand, does this mean that ALL .elc files are getting >> .eln companions? > > Not necessarily. If you use the "normal" build procedure, only the > Lisp files that are preloaded (and a few additional support files) > will be natively compiled, the rest will be left as *.elc files. Indeed, I observed this behaviour under MinGW2. > But I'm not sure I understand why you are asking this. I wanted to know if it makes sense (and is possible) to natively compile all *.elc files for Windows? :-) >> Or can this work as under Gnu-Linux with JIT compilation? > > If libgccjit is not available, Emacs should use the *.elc files. I thought this. I'm also wondering how much the additional .eln files will enlarge the Emacs distribution.. Thank you Dieter -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Zwingenberg, Germany