From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: sbaugh@catern.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Updating *Completions* as you type
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 21:20:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86a5shyw48.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7gxwaxe.fsf@catern.com> (sbaugh@catern.com's message of "Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:01:01 -0400")
> What if the concept of "current selected completion" was unified with
> "the default completion"? This could be a nice, general UI.
>
> Specifically, with switch-to-buffer and a default of init.el:
>
> - If init.el is present in *Completions*, start out with point on it.
> This would be purely a display nicety, it wouldn't actually affect
> anything yet. (This would be easy with my patch which I posted
> elsewhere in this thread to preserve the location of point in
> *Completions*)
I think preselecting the default value in the middle of completions
would make sense only when completions were sorted by the order of the
list of default values (from M-n M-n ...). Then the first default value
would be at the top of completions, and it would easier for users
to navigate completions top-down.
> - If and when the user invokes minibuffer-next-completion:
> - The default changes to whatever the new selected completion is
> - The prompt text "(default init.el)" changes permanently to literally
> "(default selected completion)"
Changing the prompt might interfere with such packages as minibuf-eldef.el
and other cases of customized minibuffer-default-prompt-format.
Also this might break commands that manually handle the default value
for empty input.
> - RET, as always, chooses the default if the minibuffer is empty; if the
> user has done minibuffer-next-completion, the default is the selected
> completion, so RET will choose that.
> - M-RET (minibuffer-choose-completion) is replaced with a new command
> which immediately chooses the default, whatever it is, ignoring the
> current contents of the minibuffer
What should RET do after the user navigated in *Completions* and
switched back to the minibuffer. A different candidate is highlighted
in *Completions*, while the default value remains unchanged.
BTW, while looking at this case I found a problem with your first patch:
after navigating in *Completions* and switching back to the minibuffer
point is reset to the beginning of the *Completions* buffer.
> - C-u M-RET inserts the default in the the minibuffer, without exiting
> (matching the behavior of C-u minibuffer-choose-completion)
Usually the default is inserted by M-n.
> I think this has some nice benefits in reducing the number of concepts
> people need to track. If the minibuffer is empty, they can just use
> minibuffer-next-completion a few times followed by RET to select a
> completion, no need to use M-RET. Plus, the new M-RET and C-u M-RET
> would be useful even to users who don't use minibuffer-next-completion.
It seems this is intended to solve the problem of a mismatch between
the highlighted candidate and the contents of the minibuffer?
Such problem exists, for example, in icomplete-mode where
RET returns the contents of the minibuffer, so a special key 'C-j'
is dedicated to select the highlighted candidate. For selecting
a highlighted candidate from *Completions* such key is 'M-RET'.
> I also think this would make it less painful to set
> minibuffer-completion-auto-choose to nil, which matches
> completion-in-region better and also works much better with
> completions-auto-update.
Sorry, I don't understand how this would make
minibuffer-completion-auto-choose=nil less painful.
Since there is no concept of the default value for completion-in-region,
'M-RET' is the only way to choose the highlighted candidate.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-17 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-12 23:53 Updating *Completions* as you type sbaugh
2023-10-13 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-13 18:01 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-14 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-14 19:26 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <874jit2ef7.fsf@>
2023-10-14 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-14 16:51 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-14 17:56 ` sbaugh
2023-10-14 19:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-13 6:34 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-13 19:04 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-14 16:58 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-14 20:05 ` sbaugh
2023-10-15 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-15 15:55 ` sbaugh
2023-10-16 11:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-16 14:50 ` Michael Albinus
2023-10-16 15:58 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-10-16 12:16 ` sbaugh
2023-10-17 18:23 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-18 23:27 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-15 7:32 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-16 19:28 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-17 18:38 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-15 20:31 ` Eshel Yaron
2023-10-16 3:18 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-10-16 16:54 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-17 13:48 ` sbaugh
2023-10-17 18:35 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-17 22:57 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-18 3:04 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-10-18 6:56 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-18 12:25 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-18 17:32 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-18 23:33 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-19 2:29 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-19 6:55 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-19 19:22 ` sbaugh
2023-11-20 7:51 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-20 15:24 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20 17:47 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-20 18:50 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-21 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-21 12:40 ` sbaugh
2023-11-21 17:09 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-21 20:45 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-22 7:51 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-22 16:11 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-23 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-23 12:36 ` sbaugh
2023-11-24 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-25 16:44 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-25 18:31 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-26 13:33 ` sbaugh
2023-11-27 7:28 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 14:38 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-28 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-28 17:13 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-29 7:11 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-29 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-29 14:14 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-29 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-29 15:21 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-29 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-29 19:17 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-30 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-30 12:33 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-30 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-28 23:56 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-29 3:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-03 17:25 ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-03 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-06 17:17 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 17:16 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 23:36 ` Turning completion table lambdas into symbols Spencer Baugh
2023-11-28 23:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-29 19:26 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-12-01 0:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-29 7:18 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-21 12:54 ` Updating *Completions* as you type John Yates
2023-11-21 17:03 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-21 22:27 ` John Yates
2023-10-20 6:49 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-17 15:01 ` sbaugh
2023-10-17 18:20 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2023-10-17 23:37 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-17 23:44 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-18 6:51 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-18 12:47 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-18 17:28 ` Juri Linkov
2023-10-18 23:32 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-16 3:19 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-10-20 9:35 ` zcomplete Philip Kaludercic
2023-10-22 17:28 ` zcomplete Juri Linkov
2023-10-23 5:00 ` zcomplete Protesilaos Stavrou
2023-10-23 6:45 ` zcomplete Juri Linkov
2023-10-13 18:11 ` Updating *Completions* as you type Daniel Semyonov
2023-10-13 18:48 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-10-16 3:16 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-10-16 9:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-10-16 16:03 ` Drew Adams
2023-10-20 7:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-10-20 16:10 ` Drew Adams
2023-10-16 22:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-17 6:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-17 0:44 ` Michael Heerdegen
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