From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 15:33:10 +0300 Message-ID: <86a5hrqhdl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sevj9b50.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <871q33rj7v.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87r0b3p7wq.fsf@dataswamp.org> <81ad0094dfd15b7f2c5c51da0643bf7a@subvertising.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20720"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: divya@subvertising.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 05 14:34:50 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sawvK-0005CW-D1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 14:34:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sawuU-00057X-5a; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 08:33:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sawuN-00055t-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 08:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sawuM-0003vz-6c; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 08:33:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=jv1Ob6xM+BKUfjs2vRo0sZp6/EAd4dPH2zgfNbpyUEM=; b=akeqPNWp8LD+ 8073eGgFxHfZymZS67RypErX76KGwDpX69RF3wCuW+X/SdmyKjXJ9FrwXC0nYb7Xp1makrSANaujh mkJQRI5b45t0vGrUmVCvvjKos4JIwo0L99wdgiD+ZXTbZSIxzWdGF0JsoBIO4PUhCWyKkPGVBG3SG FRT1saOCNMPSN4+8vmNX68UDHzLzHMKtfQ3/eWsUUUmeAyZK3LPxen14nVdobt9yD0tLgXKZJFDce Q+V616pg8o4kmKBpm7Nb2il9rJL3KRZvhvs62b0eXMR9lfv7aAAXS257ZwsSH3rmIUdWtokE3RRTF Vi3KO+NWewwyZ7uXCt9O6w==; In-Reply-To: <81ad0094dfd15b7f2c5c51da0643bf7a@subvertising.org> (divya@subvertising.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322366 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 11:37:24 +0000 > From: divya@subvertising.org > > > Hardly. If anywhere, Lisp is stronger at universities. > > Hello, I've been reading the last few exchanges and this strikes to me > as intriguing. Which univerisities are you aware of, other than the > places where Felleisen, Friedman et.al (Racket folks) have been active > to have a serious Lisp-based approach? You no longer have that in MIT in > any serious capacity either, except a few grad PL Theory classes, one > doesn't really interact with Lisp in any considerable capacity. And this > is not really news, even Sussman (co-author of SICP, taught at MIT) > acknowledged the wave of changing to Python from Lisp[0]. > > I find this dishonest in the least, to not acknowledge the existing > conditions as they are. Once again, please don't discuss these issues here, they are off-topic. We have the emacs-tangents mailing list for this purpose, please use that instead.