Re: Emacs Newbie Info Pages

[Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>]

> From: Summer Emacs <summeremacs@summerstar.me>
> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:58:21 +0200
> Cc: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>, corwin@bru.st, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > How does this proposed Info manual compare with the C-h t Emacs
> > tutorial?  If they are doing different jobs, how do they differ?
> 
> Good questions! Thank you.
> 
> 1) My proposal is for new people to have a landing set of pages to click through, explaining things in a clear and easy way for them to understand without the instant introduction of concepts which are alien to them. I think the help files are a great thing, but they are overwhelming for new people. I know this because I’ve shown it to people in my circles who don’t know much of anything about how to use a computer, but still use applications such as Word or Pages to type up things for work/classes. They couldn’t understand the first thing about the help pages.

I think Richard asked about the difference between what you propose
and the existing Emacs tutorial (which can be read by typing "C-h t").
The tutorial is not what you call "help files", and is written in a
different style and with different goals in mind.

Or are you saying that the tutorial is also overwhelming, in
particular due to introducing too many alien concepts?  If so, that
might be worth a separate discussion, because the tutorial is not
supposed to be hard to read and understand.