From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package c-intro-and-ref -- was Re: Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2024 18:30:34 +0200 Message-ID: <86a5d8lqol.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ser8c230.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86ser87rut.fsf@gnu.org> <86cyia4503.fsf@gnu.org> <87bjxsbc8h.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86a5db1vc6.fsf@gnu.org> <87v7vy2cho.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14593"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Max Nikulin Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 06 17:32:31 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tJbFm-0003Yz-QX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 17:32:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJbF3-0006bD-PJ; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 11:31:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJbEy-0006aZ-Ua for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 11:31:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJbEy-00066J-MH; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 11:31:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=tnWcQI0UdnamijrA1zDQF5EHXUiiPYkPZ5fg72XJKxM=; b=ItS/F2wJ7HEz j7FyvnFR1gsrAWyfNXwcG6OqL3rgLyJdq9hoSVDjmDMoBFmuqIIi4UrY14xV04h3oPVS0QtpGkp+7 0hyGMv/T3MUA33bZPK/rCjYUlksWeaa5Ow/4n2LPnztB1cSF1UKlmmQCtYnkU3ZlEHZNx7DchvlNF 7p7ka/s6dmTAe3hD1qGGFcY3zFqjnCmzbVzyNFbtNBneHPXIIxBj+cxC8PGaLn5st5ZNUVVoZmBjT WFZE4nPjVhmfij0Yh54hj96jHrZYW4mDrid6MzZqKBHaXuBmsyFuiKb37fK2Wl53/7iDq1SWgxP9m 3JTJyWsOSkqevECD4nZh7w==; In-Reply-To: (message from Max Nikulin on Fri, 6 Dec 2024 21:58:39 +0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326139 Archived-At: > From: Max Nikulin > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 21:58:39 +0700 > > On 06/12/2024 01:47, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > > It would also make sense to make the Emacs manuals available for easy > > download, as distributions like Debian do not include these by default. > > > has a link to emacs.info.gz, there is no need to download whole source > tarball. A couple of issues: > - this page does not contain "../" link to other manuals Why should it? > - only one release is available (so "Updated: $Date: 2016/06/20 13:37:40 > $" might be confusing) while Emacs-28 is available from Debian stable > repositories. When a new major release of Emacs happens, we produce the manuals for that release and update the manuals in the "webpages" repository. This then triggers the update of the Web page. We never provided more than the last major release's manuals from that place. If someone wants to work on the scripts used to do this such that they support leaving the previous manuals (in some properly named directory) instead of overwriting them, you can find the scripts in the admin/ directory. > I still think that it is easier to install the emacs-common-non-dfsg > package than to download info files from some other source. The fact that the Emacs manuals are available from the GNU Documentation site doesn't prevent anyone from using other distros. Each one should do it in the way that is the most convenient for them. The important point is that the manuals are "available for easy download" in more ways than one.