From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-30 8064b2a6798: Document undocumented completion commands Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 09:23:00 +0200 Message-ID: <86a5c030yz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <173506838079.2264184.7348874799811402829@vcs3.savannah.gnu.org> <20241224192621.31046CA6ED0@vcs3.savannah.gnu.org> <86zfk58vv2.fsf@gnu.org> <86frlx8np8.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20524"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eshel Yaron Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 09 08:23:42 2025 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tVmtK-0005D4-3a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2025 08:23:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tVmsi-00073A-Ay; Thu, 09 Jan 2025 02:23:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tVmsg-00072z-H6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2025 02:23:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tVmsg-0005lp-3H; Thu, 09 Jan 2025 02:23:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=yyLnD3CeyE63uJ8+fELu9wOBZ8NIli0P3eHPgYclYoo=; b=HLhQzmNFZVEF 5q+zYr+GCW1iAuHE3hvsns1cCaYNaJ/zAM0XtW4GrYcGjwk6MeTqmvh1ldd0k36xgkwc8FMvtVRQn pPN2LNfIfCM15SakRJS6srsHURYX8ZhMyu5597IQ99uPhQbhs38sbaKo4xtMupMeURVt+3GZMnvzo ES/DtoG9LnkBRd0goHfWsgkjHaY5hxs0ny8QvoiSDH2vLh7p6LQJmBGcY3ifOlflBLbQ++kgzSECv rzNd0XczCBch2SuIFMSG+RmUbUj6SYTHm9tnqEaEd6DqtXmnM4VwvPtaFBdfQApmed9JMHK8DfLko gMtzP+JiLQqhKW+UXTUA3A==; In-Reply-To: (message from Eshel Yaron on Mon, 06 Jan 2025 13:16:40 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327808 Archived-At: > From: Eshel Yaron > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 13:16:40 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Eshel Yaron > >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 12:36:27 +0100 > >> > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > >> >> From: Eshel Yaron > >> >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii > >> >> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 09:06:04 +0100 > >> >> > >> >> > DEFUN ("read-from-minibuffer", Fread_from_minibuffer, > >> >> > Sread_from_minibuffer, 1, 7, 0, > >> >> > doc: /* Read a string from the minibuffer, prompting with string PROMPT. > >> >> > +While in the minibuffer, you can use \\\\[minibuffer-complete] and \\[minibuffer-complete-word] to complete your input. > >> >> > >> >> This part isn't quite right: read-from-minibuffer does not provide > >> >> completion with minibuffer-complete[-word] by default. > >> >> > >> >> How about just dropping these references? > >> > > >> > Sorry, I don't want to drop them, they are important. > >> > > >> > Why do you say these are not supported by default? I can use them in > >> > "emacs -Q", so what did I miss? > >> > >> Hmm, C-h f read-from-minibuffer now says "While in the minibuffer, you can > >> use TAB and SPC to complete your input." But read-from-minibuffer doesn't > >> provide such completion, by default it uses minibuffer-local-map, in which > >> both keys are self-inserting. Do you see something different? > > > > Please help me make this accurate without losing the important > > information about these commands. Okay? > > AFAICT it would be more accurate (and relevant) to mention these > commands in the docstring of completing-read, not read-from-minibuffer. > But they are also pretty well documented in both the Emacs manual and > the ELisp manual, so I'm not sure I see the importance of mentioning > them there as well... Maybe you are right. But can you help me a bit more by telling which functions that enter the minibuffer install the two keymaps I mentioned in the doc string, minibuffer-local-map and minibuffer-local-completion-map? Those are the functions in whose minibuffer these commands can be used. Thanks.