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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269474 Archived-At: > On 18 May 2021, at 4:20 pm, Paul W. Rankin wrote: >=20 > Ugh. Not sure how this slipped into master but it is not a = good/considerate idea to set default value of bookmark-fontify to t. >=20 > If there are no reasonable objections I'll push this later today. To recap the bookmark-fontify saga the takeaways appear to be: Everyone in the thread seems to get the default should be nil not t. The = fix has since been reverted. Whether this does get fixed now or after 28 = (and the ensuing cascade of befuddled people asking/complaining about = the appearance of an inexplicable error highlight thing) is left to the = next brave soul. It seems I hurt some people's feelings by pushing the fix without = waiting for their "okay". I am aware but I'd be lying if I said I cared = about this. The irony that pushing this feature out without caring about = annoying anyone else, and that this fix was to avoid that happening, = seems quite lost. But you don't need to take my word for it! Here's some guy named Neal = Stephenson saying the reason he uses Emacs is because it does not do = this kind of thing: https://youtu.be/0JDFd_BoN1k?t=3D2572 Let's be more like Neal.=