From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Saving the selection before killing
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:21:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <868x9f30fo.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1IAdpK-0001SZ-00@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 16 Jul 2007 23\:34\:18 -0400")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> But I think asking people to try it out will not result in many
> responses. People who like it will start using it silently, and
> people who don't like probably will not try it. The only way to
> get more opinions is to install it and wait for a reaction.
>
> I think people on this list will tell us what they think of it.
> Would people please try installing it and report what they think?
The main problem I saw with it was working over non-local X
connections where it could lead to annoying and inexplicable
slowdowns.
That is not the normal use case, but it is a situation where being
able to still work with Emacs would be important. I remember that
there has been a _lot_ of people complaining about inexplicable
slowdowns on the XEmacs developer list, and the general advice was to
disable some hooks that provided a similarly "sensible" default
behavior with respect to possibly unrelated selections.
I don't know the details, though, but it probably was the somewhat
different case of every Emacs kill command copying stuff to the
clipboard or so (or some clipboard application milking a selection
whenever one was available).
Anyway, the point is that this was also not detected as a problem in
testing, and still caused frequent annoyance for people with not too
unusual X setups. So I'd be careful of milking selections by default.
Maybe one reasonable test case would be two Emacs sessions side by
side. Oh, by the way: does Emacs see its own selections?
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-17 8:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <mailman.3386.1184244752.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-12 20:31 ` Saving the selection before killing (was: Selection not to be copied into kill-ring) Stefan Monnier
2007-07-12 20:45 ` Saving the selection before killing David Kastrup
2007-07-13 18:38 ` Saving the selection before killing (was: Selection not to be copied into kill-ring) Richard Stallman
2007-07-13 19:11 ` Saving the selection before killing Stefan Monnier
2007-07-14 18:00 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-15 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-07-17 3:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-17 8:21 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-07-18 4:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18 5:44 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 9:28 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 20:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-18 21:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-18 9:24 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 9:21 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-18 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-19 7:35 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-19 17:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-20 6:27 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-20 15:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-20 16:50 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-21 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 9:22 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-19 4:25 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-19 7:44 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-19 21:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-20 6:33 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-21 4:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-21 9:28 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-22 1:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 7:55 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-22 18:37 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-22 20:32 ` Jan Djärv
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