From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: andres.ramirez Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 21:27:22 +0000 Message-ID: <868shbzr5x.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87pnb7u70r.fsf@red-bean.com> <87y2pvrzho.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87y2pvqhuj.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pnaog13i.fsf@red-bean.com> <87h7w0f03x.fsf@red-bean.com> <5bae1fd5-52ef-46f1-c728-8d5940bf5bbc@yandex.ru> <20200528205249.GC919@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <20200528211044.GD919@breton.holly.idiocy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="30483"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Alan Third , Stefan Monnier , cwebber@dustycloud.org, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Karl Fogel , Dmitry Gutov , ndame@protonmail.com Cancel-Lock: sha1:BQbXUA070cruwXkBcotxBH4vbo0= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 28 23:28:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jeQ4Y-0007ej-Vt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 23:28:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54336 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jeQ4S-0001PC-U7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:28:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jeQ3m-0000t6-MY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk1-f196.google.com ([209.85.222.196]:32832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jeQ3l-0001AF-1v; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk1-f196.google.com with SMTP id z80so420830qka.0; Thu, 28 May 2020 14:27:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references :cancel-lock:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=inHqYYQneLJC7mOeqHC7G/4jiOV5bJRJFnkOdO6Z5X0=; b=AB8GJRJpJfrx1amJlQAEB0y8w4x5YyWckOQykRN7IKd1+/tB3321YDeV91tmZz4IYO J2VOOQaGIvMLhrlNRiLtrB4bognGzM7rPgXTqSEslvh19jJZ9wAOSwK2roF+hbe/Xh2x bXWZCwHSj33ArsSujaGvabBchDM2Fc8knhqzVq4qdkG0VWnIkTD4irKRRYRxIDEyvBn8 m9Wy6ZP0yzdseoZuI4SAe9guyR48TG17dKo9UqjRWIZgKSyyJZfAOzvEpnSvFnf7RiWC RiKl8RNotg4/OFFr7777LE645hdDDOCqAkUgwtkuZGVuC+0qvQ54zoqTL8VNch/L68qe a9VA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5321Et0xnSjTDU/MXih92wreSgDbIpFgkn0J6TJ2QSfYjfzuLQTi fWuGfv5body34YuP/8UOUXo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyXpJvfBBOVwDWzFE0Nxb/WevesFFJ6b7mCqivclOGp+zDmHO+mOsnE3uqbEzzOzh/Z3jVPow== X-Received: by 2002:a37:8446:: with SMTP id g67mr5026176qkd.388.1590701247479; Thu, 28 May 2020 14:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from sacsa.n800.arm.processor.yandex.fm ([190.236.255.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o144sm5718722qke.126.2020.05.28.14.27.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 28 May 2020 14:27:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20200528211044.GD919@breton.holly.idiocy.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.222.196; envelope-from=rrandresf@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk1-f196.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/28 17:27:27 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -9 X-Spam_score: -1.0 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251584 Archived-At: Hi. >>>>> "Alan" == Alan Third writes: Alan> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 05:02:33PM -0400, Stefan Monnier Alan> wrote: >> > This seems like a reasonable solution to me. Alternatively >> perhaps we > just need to sell C-x C-f as "open a file or >> directory" rather than > "find a file"? >> >> A directory *is* a file. Alan> Well why are these damn newbies getting confused when they Alan> open a directory? ;) -- Alan Third Because on mainstream products (There is a distinction about file and folder. But on Unix everything is a file). Best Regards