From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: sweep Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 20:49:10 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <868rm376hl.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <877d1qlynt.fsf@posteo.net> <874jwsn214.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtakklgh.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38252"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Eshel Yaron , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jan Wielemaker To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 28 19:59:39 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1odbLO-0009mB-Sb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 19:59:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47868 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odbLN-0008E9-Ud for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:59:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33150) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odbK2-0005yR-Ly for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:58:14 -0400 Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:53753) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odbK0-00066T-Fp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:58:14 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63E531C0008; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:58:07 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87mtakklgh.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Wed, 28 Sep 2022 07:27:26 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.197; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay5-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296410 Archived-At: >>> I agree with RMS () that it might >>> be nice to have a more indicative name, or at least something that >>> includes "Prolog". Mor eso because "sweep" makes me think of something >>> that cleans. >> >> I've given it some thought, and all in all I would like to keep the name >> `sweep` for this project. I do see however why this name may be >> unhelpful for Emacs users who are not familiar with SWI-Prolog, or who >> are looking for some "cleaning" package... As a possible solution, I'd >> be happy to change the name of the Elisp package to `sweeprolog` while >> still referring to the project as a whole as `sweep` (e.g. in the >> manual). Does that sounds alright? > > I think that would be nice, and there shouldn't be a need to rename the > entire project. I wonder where this requirement to put all tags in the package name comes from? While looking at the long list of package names, it's hard to find a package whose name immediately hints at what it does. This is a non-problem that is solved in all package managers by using tags and full-text search. And indeed list-package allows both ways, e.g. when someone is interested in Prolog, then it's easy to type '/ k' (package-menu-filter-by-keyword). Or try to use '/ d erlang RET' (package-menu-filter-by-description) and see that almost no package has it in the package name, yet these packages can be easily found: auto-complete-distel melpa Erlang/distel completion backend for auto-complete-mode company-distel melpa Erlang/distel completion backend for company-mode company-erlang melpa company backend based on ivy-erlang-complete distel-completion-lib melpa Completion library for Erlang/Distel edts melpa Erlang Development Tool Suite erlang melpa Erlang major mode erlstack-mode melpa Minor mode for analysing Erlang stacktraces ivy-erlang-complete melpa Erlang context sensitive completion at point using ivy lfe-mode melpa Lisp Flavoured Erlang mode