From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [SPAM UNSURE] Maybe we're taking a wrong approach towards tree-sitter Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 11:38:36 -0700 Message-ID: <867dh7odeb.fsf@stephe-leake.org> References: <8735rzyzbz.fsf@163.com> <86v94v3xh9.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87wnpargnb.fsf@elite.giraud> <87h7gey7zx.fsf@163.com> <83pmv2twrl.fsf@gnu.org> <86sfzwogsn.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6794"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (windows-nt) Cc: Andrei Kuznetsov , Eli Zaretskii , manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuan Fu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 30 20:42:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m9XSp-0001YR-5n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 20:42:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36438 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m9XSn-0005X6-2M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:42:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33214) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m9XRd-00045O-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:41:17 -0400 Original-Received: from gateway21.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.45.159]:31505) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m9XRb-0002If-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:41:17 -0400 Original-Received: from cm13.websitewelcome.com (cm13.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.6]) by gateway21.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994B3401F9E76 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 13:38:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from host2007.hostmonster.com ([67.20.76.71]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 9XP8mACwNrJtZ9XP8mqkeE; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 13:38:42 -0500 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stephe-leake.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tolc91GUoaut5r6ZbJj7jTdu/CiOnpJfzp0hPcIc3xo=; b=QIKNIBtmhbZzUBR03x7h1ViXyL u49el8c0MIeAuXvLyJ5/U7aa78fGZFVEAQVqLZrGmI/CTs6GkcaSt7+0f5eu4ftykL0woRTkan5Dp eFBBAG/fqNcGJg6mBzA+E+DMKkVLK5stLK+vcHJCOw9duZbMdZi7R6vy2XYfylHXnF7T4gbNorsp9 IsnlrC7s3yxPJ0zQm1c7XtJvDKa/bDsfAGPSi+6y9q/SFh38XxXxMSVheXzl/ok98vq/RW4JahX2H VjsE2Hn9/Ref3/gcyDM7bouxHEkM8GNVZCbioYvkBPc6WHOFs1emxLRabO/I7OdHitklqpY3/DDvg K7zRg+Bg==; Original-Received: from [76.77.182.20] (port=52169 helo=Takver4) by host2007.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1m9XP7-000zMO-Bb; Fri, 30 Jul 2021 12:38:41 -0600 In-Reply-To: (Yuan Fu's message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:21:39 -0400") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host2007.hostmonster.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stephe-leake.org X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 76.77.182.20 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1m9XP7-000zMO-Bb X-Source-Sender: (Takver4) [76.77.182.20]:52169 X-Source-Auth: stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: c3RlcGhlbGU7c3RlcGhlbGU7aG9zdDIwMDcuaG9zdG1vbnN0ZXIuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes Received-SPF: permerror client-ip=192.185.45.159; envelope-from=stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org; helo=gateway21.websitewelcome.com X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:271862 Archived-At: Yuan Fu writes: >> On Jul 29, 2021, at 7:12 PM, Stephen Leake wrote: >> That's true for the common TS runtime, which implements the parser and >> error recovery, but the code for each language, that builds the LR parse >> table and some other data structures, is generated in C from a grammar >> file written in javascript, and must be linked into Emacs somehow. > > Languages don=E2=80=99t need to be linked into Emacs. They can be in dyna= mic > modules. Dynamic modules are linked, at run-time. That's how the code that calls them knows what addresses to call. So I think you are saying the tree-sitter runtime will be=20 linked into Emacs at emacs compile time, while the languages can be linked in at run-time. That's good. --=20 -- Stephe