From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: Other details about completion. Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 19:46:50 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <867d7zzh1p.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <20220406174532.chsgqkzd2gphyuh3@Ergus> <86h776cbxa.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <024631F1-7D64-4784-BEF4-9B34ABFFC234@aol.com> <86tub5pbcr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20220407091649.gg2kzu3bqk326zr7@Ergus> <86tub4al82.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20220407173854.svouydgsy6hwytep@Ergus> <868rsg93dv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20220407183535.qug4e2eaeicuje6c@Ergus> <86wng0gh3a.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20220408084228.brbjvrsjnjqdipbu@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6139"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 08 19:06:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ncs3m-0001Qg-Hk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2022 19:06:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32968 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ncs3l-0005nL-4D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2022 13:06:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ncruI-0001ww-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2022 12:56:22 -0400 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:48361) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ncruG-0004M0-OX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2022 12:56:22 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2CC441BF209; Fri, 8 Apr 2022 16:56:14 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <20220408084228.brbjvrsjnjqdipbu@Ergus> (Ergus's message of "Fri, 8 Apr 2022 10:42:28 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.201; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287973 Archived-At: >>>> 1. zstyle ':completion:*' menu select interactive >>>> - allows typing a letter that immediately >>>> updates the list of completions. >>> >>> Yes, but that may be complicated because completions calls a function >>> that will try first to complete the common part and then update the >>> completions. (Look what happens when you press a letter and tab >>> immediately). There are few ways to go around that without braking half >>> of the Universe. Look where I added the code for the >>> completion-auto-help visible and always... there is where the magic >>> happens. >>> >>> Maybe you will find a better way to manage what you want. >> >> Indeed, this is why I proposed to create zcomplete-mode >> that works exactly like icomplete-mode, but updates completions >> in the Completions window instead of the minibuffer. > > IIRC Helm already uses that approach? Helm uses own buffer, not the standard *Completions* buffer. >>>> 2. zstyle ':completion:*' menu select search >>>> - shows the prompt "isearch:" where typing letters >>>> searches them incrementally in the list of completions. >>> >>>>> 2) it will be simpler to implement with >>>>> icomplete and that family of completion engines. >>>> >>>> Agreed, this would be the best thing to do. >>> >>> For that we have fido and similes... What we are trying to improve a bit >>> is the default completion engine. Then the user will choose fido, ido or >>> something external... it is up to him. >> >> fido, ido and others use the minibuffer, but zcomplete-mode will use >> the Completions window. > > Then my question will be... what's the advantage/difference from the > user point of view compared with putting the completions in the > minibuffer like icomplete/fido/ivy/ido do? The advantage is that it's easy to switch to the *Completions* buffer, and use all available navigation keys and isearch capabilities.