From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Project out of sources compilation Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2024 17:41:58 +0300 Message-ID: <867chd6vgp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86r0fm8n3j.fsf@gnu.org> <21199757e8643ad0f4924b442c0371ae24afe84e.camel@yandex.ru> <86jzle8fx5.fsf@gnu.org> <99b6071c01ae83b9cdc418c467a7e95b6940b5c5.camel@yandex.ru> <86bk6p8zqs.fsf@gnu.org> <86ttkh72zk.fsf@gnu.org> <6chbxwpo3lhq5jjgifburel2nnzancwoiaybmqx5b344rwfsdv@b45k3iangbpw> <86jzld701x.fsf@gnu.org> <5jwkse5xf5hslc73yjcnc55akutz5gyhrvqnr7xpuvqvi6qz2n@4zly7ryvfc7j> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1250"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Hi-Angel@yandex.ru, rms@gnu.org, dmitry@gutov.dev, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 04 16:43:22 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rsOJG-000Aan-7K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2024 16:43:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rsOIE-00036u-DS; Thu, 04 Apr 2024 10:42:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rsOID-00036R-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2024 10:42:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rsOIC-0005Fl-4X; Thu, 04 Apr 2024 10:42:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Q283uEBCl0q7WD8tNQaSBq80Af6MuzELublsdpQ7MFI=; b=WO/hNYiYBaWv s26eW7DN6cXN3j+ZEPFVgIiBJvhKQpDtgExbZMSJjk+XQ4wDhHlmJBNPMNghH2t1IEe9sCdAAbf5S aMEXqklApKHe+GYXUbk4GNR6/xgHtD1Uk/M6AbvxZ4Os0cNhYI5dz11bmuenkdlZY3oERGWO7G+JG V9jD5maPxlzl4wm95IaQQnhSfH2bsK9uxuhSrncANVbIFjkPblHhnBR2vM76tx3bm1vPseNlVoHQM Jfe7s8DZ9zxR1ovxWWpbIz3I48OudMuL8oWC5MRzrQ6BKYx4FS7purITbt82xVcro6QxfxhG9t/7S o0fNQNCGqlz+jzUXGTPP1Q==; In-Reply-To: <5jwkse5xf5hslc73yjcnc55akutz5gyhrvqnr7xpuvqvi6qz2n@4zly7ryvfc7j> (message from Ergus on Thu, 4 Apr 2024 16:27:34 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317522 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 16:27:34 +0200 > From: Ergus > Cc: Hi-Angel@yandex.ru, rms@gnu.org, dmitry@gutov.dev, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > >The reason is that Emacs's support for "running uininstalled" assumes > >the Lisp files are in the source tree. IOW, running uninstalled from > >a build directory outside of the source tree does not take the *.elc > >files from that build directory, as I think you can verify if you look > >at the value of load-path. > > Exactly, so this is not OOSC and does not behave as expected in > OOSC. No, it isn't. Not many programs at all support running uninstalled. Emacs does, but only if you build inside the source. This is unrelated to the possibility of out-of-source build, where you are supposed to say "make install" after you build. > Which is what Konstantin pointed out since the beginning. No, he didn't.