From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Reconsider make-backup-files default value Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 08:49:40 +0300 Message-ID: <867cb89oqz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86o74ndcxy.fsf@gnu.org> <87o74l2iyk.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31409"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, james.ipswich@proton.me, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 19 07:50:46 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1srA3y-00080K-LH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:50:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srA3I-0005kj-7O; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 01:50:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srA3C-0005iQ-1K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 01:49:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srA3B-0006W1-2n; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 01:49:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=W9ucgqSRzYhFmPBT3QQFD8878WfOKFC8jeXM8N1t8ZE=; b=WzcAoBRz6VZr lHFZsrmo2Lh+Gh9rlZpUbTzEqVCK8tdFhH5RThbGlNgStg1Ut/wIITk2HKGkA9hr/bXfkNUXFqrbz IrxcGrBSerlZrXuInXq428cVZlr0//mlfkq2eafKmlPXeIdWoGPoKz8mQOulvJYyTG4HaMXrGrAhN D9K9ciypIL5P5b0SIuDARTXNwspyAFkks76ckUxn3rMqUswf51AenFV08vngUanmnFMi5qBU6KMwo +/P6HKPEGzd/oj7ASdNlzAwtiAyhaa1F1ehmrQqcu3H7VGKlyYfO+WivcjPPy/uKjVzECxVTXoS0L oOMvyclkk90MtU0poq5Ovw==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:31:07 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323750 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:31:07 +0000 > Cc: James Ipswich , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Po Lu writes: > > > To be quite honest, I don't understand why the default state of backup > > files has arisen for "deep philosophical" debate. > > It's because no other text editor does it by default I think "no other editor" is inaccurate: some do. But many don't, yes. > That said, I have no strong opinion about changing the default. Neither > choice is obviously better (on or off). The main reason for keeping > what we have now is that it's always been that way, and changing it > might surprise some users. Yes. > If this feature had been added today, we would obviously have kept it > disabled by default. Perhaps. But we aren't designing a new feature here, so I agree that leaving the default alone is the best way forward, since changing the default is so easy if someone doesn't like it.