From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: An anonymous IRC user's opinion Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2024 19:28:04 +0200 Message-ID: <867c9htwt7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <865xq14dwp.fsf@gnu.org> <343c4d04-af53-4da2-9d1c-c616c74821e1@gutov.dev> <86plo8369c.fsf@gnu.org> <63edeeea-1f24-4d3b-abc8-b96b164942e4@gutov.dev> <8634l1zsej.fsf@gnu.org> <9a8b97f8-def3-43ce-b71b-1f09bb05afd4@gutov.dev> <86cyk4vcld.fsf@gnu.org> <86ttdgthg2.fsf@gnu.org> <86ed4kt2ws.fsf@gnu.org> <8e30fb5c-8e1b-4f73-98eb-50c5c396efb0@gutov.dev> <86ldyqsrax.fsf@gnu.org> <10864c02-4bfd-41c3-bb45-6fe1155f9676@gutov.dev> <867ca9shcw.fsf@gnu.org> <7cb15f5c-efd0-4516-8190-a53c0d958eb6@gutov.dev> <86ses8x1po.fsf@gnu.org> <865xp3w64u.fsf@gnu.org> <61171da3-7428-4572-bc13-783766a123b5@gutov.dev> <86v7x2u7rz.fsf@gnu.org> <86msidubg4.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35261"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 05 18:29:04 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t8NMU-0008xa-8n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2024 18:29:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t8NLj-0003x8-T9; Tue, 05 Nov 2024 12:28:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t8NLf-0003wj-A5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2024 12:28:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t8NLf-0000Nb-0t; Tue, 05 Nov 2024 12:28:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=DCRh9AnBAjErSK3jcscMnN8/V8vyJZ7PZUFq9RC1Tq4=; b=d3yIZDho7rt0 PeuySqZD+aja4b9FQ1DkYhkiv3ZpoCzBgzhu0KjDOLLhjgWr8jtePc2cmZhKmYx8p8XNwOj/Shwgo m/BQbEY5doYNhTmpphCvniF23b0rReyFdr11tEx9LXU4ORLCPrGe5f3Ce518qwZQPNajYQrUes3FW 7du+350fJddPSM93M2uTntqQI0/E9FHbC6Xe5r2Qqm/hgsbjtjdF5NwvSu9IVm/fSl3kjdxsoWEG+ T7EDtAYRwnKvIKxF4bf6jYI2riM48JmMA81nYWbkI0lrE+td/pfJ3t82egcIFD9ZiYB7k8keQKw04 jXemxGxRuzFCUMnG9ECrQQ==; In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 5 Nov 2024 19:05:42 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325145 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 19:05:42 +0200 > Cc: johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > On 05/11/2024 14:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > (Are we really going to reiterate that old discussion? Nothing's > > changed since then, so the opinions and conclusions will be exactly > > the same.) > > No need. I thought we were in agreement earlier in this thread > (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2024-10/msg00319.html), > but apparently not. It was a misunderstanding. Blame me. > The key improvement is to make modes stop altering auto-mode-alist or > major-mode-remap-defaults during package loading or in major mode functions. That might be an improvement from the POV of us the developers, but it is of a very minor significance, if at all, from the users' POV. > Suppose the user customizes treesit-modes-enabled (the new option) to t. > > Would that have to enable the file associations for all treesit major > modes right away, in the same Emacs session? Yes, I think so. > That would require having more data stored somewhere, which > currently isn't. Some other registration hook for all ts modes to > use. I don't think I understand what data are you talking about.