From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:08:53 +0200 Message-ID: <86645gi1ay.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fy4kjy0k.fsf@red-bean.com> <467AF6CC.2000300@gnu.org> <86ejk4jtno.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <877ipwqtg9.fsf@red-bean.com> <86ejk4i2gn.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <467BC5CC.3030506@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182517746 2473 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2007 13:09:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Karl Fogel , wilde@sha-bang.de, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, hacksaw@hacksaw.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 22 15:09:04 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1isn-0002LS-01 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:09:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1ism-0004hr-De for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:09:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1isi-0004hh-GT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:08:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1ish-0004hQ-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:08:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1ish-0004hN-BR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1isg-0000GG-M8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (dslnet.212-29-44.ip210.dokom.de [212.29.44.210] (may be forged)) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19437 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:08:48 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 7778 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2007 13:08:53 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jun 2007 13:08:53 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C999DF9DD1; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:08:53 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <467BC5CC.3030506@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Fri\, 22 Jun 2007 13\:51\:24 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73617 Archived-At: Jason Rumney writes: > David Kastrup wrote: >> Being reminded of Notepad and Word is not in itself good or bad. >> Could you explain where the peskiness lies? >> > > You came up with one good source of peskiness yourself: > >> Uh, it has the nasty side effect of starting to write to my disk >> without asking my confirmation. If I have started several Emacs >> instances, I don't want them complaining about file locks and similar >> nonsense just because I use the *scratch* buffer in both. I never argued for abolishing the *scratch* buffer (not auto-saved). And I find it quite appropriate that two instances of modified *unnamed* buffers (auto-saved) will complain eventually. That's inherent in the design if we want to offer buffers that are not volatile but still basically anonymous. -- David Kastrup