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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Nicolas Petton <nicolas@petton.fr>, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@udel.edu>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: seq-some-p and nil
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 06:26:42 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86617ca2-a339-4df0-ba05-7f33c2b2cfd0@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y4ggf2km.fsf@petton.fr>

> I meant extra complexity for the user.  If seq-some was returning a
> value, I wouldn't expect it to be a cons cell, I'd almost always want
> the element of the sequence straight away.

Well, yes.  But what if the user wants the value returned by the
function?  And what if the element is nil?

1. You need a way to always return non-nil when an element is found.
   This includes the case where the element is nil - you cannot
   just return nil as the element.

2. You (I) want to be able to use the the `some' function to
   either get the element or get the return value of the predicate,
   which can be an arbitrary function that could return a rich value.
   Or both: get and use both the element and the value.

Conclusion: return both the element and the predicate value, as
a non-nil Lisp value.  (ELEMENT . VALUE) is one such simple value.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-03 15:50 seq-some-p and nil Simen Heggestøyl
2015-09-03 16:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-03 17:19   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-09-03 17:35     ` John Mastro
2015-09-03 17:50       ` Drew Adams
2015-09-03 19:36         ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-03 19:45       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-06  1:17         ` Mark Oteiza
2015-09-06 20:48           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-06 21:46           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-07  6:11             ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-07  8:06               ` Drew Adams
2015-09-07 15:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-07 15:23                   ` Mark Oteiza
2015-09-07 17:08                   ` Drew Adams
2015-09-07 20:44                   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-07 22:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-08  7:09                       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-08 12:36                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-08 13:07                           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-08 16:49                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-08 17:01                               ` David Kastrup
2015-09-08 17:08                                 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 19:02                                   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-08 19:48                                     ` Drew Adams
2015-09-09  7:56                                       ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-09 13:26                                         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2015-09-09 17:45                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-09 17:53                                             ` Drew Adams
2015-09-09 20:24                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-09 20:46                                                 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-09 21:44                                           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-08 18:43                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-08 19:03                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-09-08 18:59                               ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-08 19:06                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-08 20:33                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-09  7:57                                   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-08 13:21                           ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-08 13:37                             ` Mark Oteiza
2015-09-08 17:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-09  2:19                                 ` Mark Oteiza
2015-09-09  4:28                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-09  4:57                                     ` Mark Oteiza
2015-09-07 20:45                   ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-03 19:40 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-10 17:46   ` Simen Heggestøyl
2015-09-10 22:12     ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-22 17:17       ` Simen Heggestøyl
2015-09-23  8:38         ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-23  8:44           ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23  8:48           ` Simen Heggestøyl
2015-09-23 10:57             ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-28 19:17         ` Nicolas Petton

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