From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Release process (was Re: Move to a cadence release model?) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:17:47 -0600 Message-ID: <86611975jo.fsf_-_@stephe-leake.org> References: <8337wdn6uu.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447201119 32092 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2015 00:18:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 00:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, john@yates-sheets.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 01:18:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwJ7K-00013b-Lh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 01:18:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36299 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwJ7K-0002gE-7y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:18:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwJ6y-0002cT-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:18:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwJ6v-000181-Bs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:18:04 -0500 Original-Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([70.40.196.235]:34641) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwJ6v-00017b-4F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:18:01 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 13387 invoked by uid 0); 11 Nov 2015 00:17:56 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2015 00:17:56 -0000 Original-Received: from host114.hostmonster.com ([74.220.207.114]) by cmgw2 with id g0Hq1r00Y2UdiVW010HtyE; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:17:54 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Jv9i8qIC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:117 a=CQdxDb2CKd3SRg4I0/XZPQ==:17 a=DsvgjBjRAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=9i_RQKNPAAAA:8 a=hEr_IkYJT6EA:10 a=x_XPkuGwIRMA:10 a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=KBlDIyvBWoX_SvhQ2kUA:9 Original-Received: from [76.218.37.33] (port=53377 helo=TAKVER2) by host114.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwJ6m-0000cA-5J; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:17:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:03:40 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (windows-nt) X-Identified-User: {2442:host114.hostmonster.com:stephele:stephe-leake.org} {sentby:smtp auth 76.218.37.33 authed with stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org} X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 70.40.196.235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194007 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> We could avoid the feature freeze altogether, if we wanted, and instead cut >> the release branch and work on the release there without freezing master. > > That would be my preference. Let's cut release-25.1 this upcoming Friday night > at the freeze date. > > It does mean a commitment by developers to use and test with this branch until > the release is out. Which is precisely why we have a feature freeze phase; it enforces this desire. I know I would be _very_ tempted to ignore the release branch, to keep working on my latest Cool Feature instead. If I know I have to wait for a release before I can merge to master again, I'll work on the release as much as I can. -- -- Stephe