From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multi-tty
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2024 13:43:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <865xoyoss6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m21pzmawnx.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Gerd Möllmann on Fri, 08 Nov 2024 10:42:58 +0100)
> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, rpluim@gmail.com,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2024 10:42:58 +0100
>
> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> >>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
> >>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> >>> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2024 09:18:05 +0100
> >>>
> >>> > Eli> This is simply not supported, never was. The environment variables
> >>> > Eli> are not per-terminal, so their effect is global, and the way we
> >>> > Eli> process them (and have no other way) is that the environment variables
> >>> > Eli> override what terminfo tells us.
> >>> >
> >>> > They do, but then they change the settings in the per-terminal
> >>> > tty_display_info, no? Or am I misreading init_tty? Certainly
> >>> >
> >>> > TERM=xterm-mono emacsclient -tty
> >>> >
> >>> > gives me a mono emacs.
> >>>
> >>> And TERN works because emacsclient picks it up and sends its value as
> >>> part of the frame creation command to the server. In the server, it is
> >>> then passed down to make_terminal_frame as a frame parameter which
> >>> itself uses it for init_tty.
> >>
> >> Yes, exactly. But TERM is special in this sense.
> >
> > Right.
> >
> >>> A pretty easy fix would be to make the environment that we got from
> >>> emacsclient anyway another frame parameter. Then init_tty wouldn't have
> >>> to use getenv to get the value of COLORTERM.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure this is easy. The general problem of environment
> >> variables being terminal-specific (_not_ frame-specific!) was
> >> discussed at length around the introduction of multi-tty into Emacs,
> >> but AFAIR the decision was eventually to leave that unsolved, due to
> >> non-trivial difficulties whose details I no longer recall. You may
> >> wish looking up those discussions, around 2003 to 2007 (look for
> >> messages posted by Károly Lőrentey, who implemented multi-tty in
> >> Emacs). Or maybe Stefan remembers those discussions better.
> >
> > I wouldn't try to "fix" the general handling of environment variables,
> > if that's even possible, which I kind of doubt as you do, I think. I'd
> > just replace the getenv("COLORTERM") with some lookup of COLORTERM in
> > what emacsclient sent to the server.
>
> And all that's necessary is
>
> modified src/term.c
> @@ -4383,7 +4383,7 @@ init_tty (const char *name, const char *terminal_type, bool must_succeed)
> (de-facto standard introduced by tmux) or if requested by
> the COLORTERM environment variable. */
> else if ((tigetflag ("Tc") > 0)
> - || ((bg = getenv ("COLORTERM")) != NULL
> + || ((bg = egetenv ("COLORTERM")) != NULL
> && strcasecmp (bg, "truecolor") == 0))
> {
> tty->TS_set_foreground = "\033[%?%p1%{8}%<%t3%p1%d%e38;2;%p1%{65536}%/%d;%p1%{256}%/%{255}%&%d;%p1%{255}%&%d%;m";
>
> A one character change, isn't that funny :-).
>
> It works because server.el puts COLORTERM in process-environment
> already, in server-with-environment.
process-environment is not supposed to affect Emacs, it's there to
affect sub-processes of Emacs.
This is exactly the crux of the problem of supporting per-terminal
environment variables.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-08 11:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-07 9:53 Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-07 10:58 ` Multi-tty Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-07 11:15 ` Multi-tty Robert Pluim
2024-11-07 11:38 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-07 11:47 ` Multi-tty Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-08 8:18 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 8:28 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 8:50 ` Multi-tty Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-08 9:16 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 9:42 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 10:17 ` Multi-tty Robert Pluim
2024-11-08 11:09 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 11:49 ` Multi-tty Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-08 11:43 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-11-08 11:41 ` Multi-tty Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-08 11:49 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 12:03 ` Multi-tty Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-08 12:25 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 12:11 ` Multi-tty Robert Pluim
2024-11-08 12:29 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 13:53 ` Multi-tty Stefan Monnier
2024-11-08 13:55 ` Multi-tty Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-08 14:05 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 14:11 ` Multi-tty Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-08 15:42 ` Multi-tty Yuri Khan
2024-11-08 13:55 ` Multi-tty Stefan Monnier
2024-11-08 14:24 ` Multi-tty Robert Pluim
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